First Financial Bancorp. (FFBC) Q3 2025 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call revealed record revenue and noninterest income, a robust net interest margin, and improved tangible book value. Despite a slight dip in loan balances, deposit balances increased significantly. The Q&A highlighted a diversified loan portfolio, mitigated rate cut impacts, and growth in commercial verticals. While some uncertainty exists in FX trading revenue, overall guidance and strategic acquisitions suggest positive momentum. The market cap of approximately $2 billion implies moderate sensitivity to these developments, likely resulting in a positive stock price movement of 2% to 8% over the next two weeks.
Key Financial Performance
Adjusted Net Income $72.6 million, adjusted earnings per share were $0.76, representing an adjusted return on assets of 1.55% and an adjusted return on tangible common equity of 19.3%. This was driven by record revenue, robust net interest margin, and record noninterest income.
Net Interest Margin 4.02%, decreased 3 basis points from the linked quarter. Asset yields declined slightly while deposit costs increased modestly.
Loan Balances Decreased $72 million during the quarter due to lower production in specialty lending areas and slower funding construction originations.
Average Deposit Balances Increased $157 million, driven by higher broker deposits and money markets, offset by a seasonal decline in public funds.
Noninterest Income $73.6 million, the highest quarter in the company's history, driven by leasing, foreign exchange businesses, higher syndication fees, and income on other investments.
Noninterest Expenses Increased $5.7 million due to higher incentive compensation tied to fee income and strong company performance.
Allowance for Credit Losses (ACL) 1.38% of total loans, increased 4 basis points from the second quarter. Provision expense was $9.1 million, driven by net charge-offs.
Net Charge-Offs 18 basis points on an annualized basis, a slight improvement from the linked quarter.
Tangible Book Value Per Share $16.19, increased 5% from the linked quarter and 14% year-over-year.
Tangible Common Equity Ratio 8.87%, increased 47 basis points from June 30.
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Operating Highlights
Pending acquisitions: Received formal regulatory approval for the Westfield transaction, expected to close in early November. Initial preparations for the BankFinancial close are underway, targeting the Chicago market, with a close expected in Q1 2026.
Workforce efficiency: Reduced full-time equivalents by approximately 200 (9%) over two years, with further efficiencies expected post-acquisition integration.
Net interest margin: Maintained a strong net interest margin of 4.02%, supported by stable asset yields and modestly increased deposit costs.
Fee income: Achieved record fee income of $73.6 million, driven by leasing, foreign exchange, syndication fees, and other investments.
Loan balances: Loan balances declined by $72 million due to slower production in specialty lending and increased construction originations.
Market expansion: Expanding into the Chicago market through the BankFinancial acquisition, enhancing geographic reach and market presence.
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Risk or Challenges
Loan Balances: Loan balances declined modestly during the quarter, falling short of expectations. Lower production in specialty businesses and a greater percentage of construction originations, which fund over time, contributed to this decline.
Net Interest Margin: Net interest margin decreased by 3 basis points from the linked quarter to 4.02%, driven by a slight decline in asset yields and a modest increase in funding costs.
Provision Expense: Provision expense increased to $9.1 million during the period, driven by net charge-offs, which could indicate potential credit quality concerns.
Noninterest Expenses: Noninterest expenses increased due to higher incentive compensation tied to fee income, which could pressure overall cost management.
Pending Acquisitions: The integration of pending acquisitions, including Westfield and BankFinancial, poses execution risks and delays in realizing cost savings, which are expected to materialize only by mid-2026.
Economic Environment: The allowance for credit losses (ACL) coverage is expected to remain flat, but it is sensitive to changes in the macroeconomic environment, which could impact credit quality and reserve levels.
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Guidance & Outlook
Loan Growth: Loan growth is expected to be in the mid-single digits on an annualized basis for the fourth quarter, excluding Westfield.
Deposit Growth: Core deposit balances are expected to increase, combined with seasonal public fund inflows, resulting in strong deposit growth.
Net Interest Margin: Net interest margin is expected to range between 3.92% and 3.97% over the next quarter, assuming a 25 basis point rate cut in both October and December. A modest bump in margin is anticipated from the addition of Westfield in early November.
Credit Costs and ACL Coverage: Fourth quarter credit costs are expected to approximate third quarter levels, and ACL coverage is anticipated to remain stable as a percent of loans.
Fee Income: Fee income is estimated to be between $77 million and $79 million, including $18 million to $20 million for foreign exchange and $21 million to $23 million for leasing business revenue. This range includes the expected impact from Westfield.
Noninterest Expense: Noninterest expense is expected to be between $142 million and $144 million, reflecting continued focus on expense management. This range includes approximately $8 million from Westfield for November and December.
Acquisitions: The Westfield transaction is expected to close in early November, with cost savings materializing in mid-2026. The BankFinancial acquisition is anticipated to close during the first quarter of 2026, expanding reach into the Chicago market.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Total shareholder return: 33% of earnings returned to shareholders through common dividend.
Commitment to shareholders: Maintained commitment to provide an attractive return to shareholders.
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Key Q&A
Q:Can you provide details on the NDFI loan exposure?
A:The NDFI portfolio is approximately $434 million, diversified, conservatively managed, and anchored in high investment-grade tier with no adversely rated credit. It includes $304 million in traditional REITs across 46 notes and $73 million in securitization loans structured using S&P methodology to high investment-grade ratings.
Q:How will the net interest margin be affected by rate cuts and the Westfield acquisition?
A:Each 25 basis point rate cut results in about 5 basis points of margin pressure. The margin is expected to start the year around 3.90% after two rate cuts but will improve slightly due to the Westfield acquisition, which helps mitigate asset sensitivity.
Q:What are the current loan origination yields and expectations for portfolio yield?
A:Loan origination yields have decreased from around 7% to the mid-6% range due to rate cuts. The portfolio yield is expected to be impacted by further rate cuts, as 60% of the loan book is tied to variable rates.
Q:What verticals or markets are expected to drive loan growth in the next quarters?
A:Strong commercial verticals, Summit funding (peak production quarter), and commercial real estate are expected to drive growth. However, the Oak Street Group may face payoff pressure. Overall, 5% annualized growth is projected.
Q:Why is the 4Q guide for fees and expenses higher than expected?
A:The increase is driven by higher forecasts from Bannockburn, Summit-related operating leases, and the wealth department's M&A and investment banking activities. These are commission-based businesses, so higher performance leads to increased salary costs.
Q:What are the expectations for credit costs and charge-offs?
A:Credit costs are expected to remain steady at 25 to 30 basis points, with a mid-20s run rate anticipated over the next few quarters.
Q:What is the outlook for capital and potential buybacks post-acquisitions?
A:Capital ratios will be reassessed 2-3 quarters after the acquisitions. If the stock trades at 150% of tangible book value or below, buybacks may be considered.
Q:What is the current state of deposit competition and its impact on costs?
A:Deposit costs were modestly up but are expected to decrease in Q4 due to aggressive rate cuts. The BankFinancial acquisition is expected to provide lower funding costs and more rational pricing.
Q:What is the outlook for FX trading revenue in 2026?
A:Q4 is expected to be a peak for FX trading revenue. For 2026, a run rate of $65 million to $70 million is anticipated, reflecting 5-10% growth.
Q:What are the workforce efficiency efforts and opportunities in the acquisitions?
A:The company is 90% through workforce efficiency efforts in the legacy company. For acquisitions, a 40% expense reduction is expected for Westfield and slightly less for BankFinancial, even with added roles to drive revenue.
Q:What are the typical seasonal flows on deposits in Q4?
A:Seasonal public fund deposits increase by $150 million to $200 million in Q4 due to property tax receipts, which then run out in the subsequent quarter.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided providing a clear answer on the long-term outlook for FX trading revenue, emphasizing variability and annual growth rates without committing to specific figures.
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