Earnings call transcript: First Financial Bancorp Q1 2025 earnings steady amid margin pressure
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Overview
The earnings call presents a mixed picture: stable financial metrics with some positive aspects like decreased noninterest expenses and nonperforming assets. However, there are concerns about macroeconomic uncertainties, tariff impacts, and reduced growth expectations. The Q&A section reveals management's evasiveness on tariff impacts and M&A, indicating uncertainty. Despite stable net interest margins and shareholder returns, the lack of clear guidance and potential supply chain challenges balance out positives, resulting in a neutral sentiment. Given the company's market cap, the stock is likely to remain stable over the next two weeks.
Key Financial Performance
Adjusted Earnings Per Share $0.63, no year-over-year change mentioned.
Return on Assets 1.33%, no year-over-year change mentioned.
Return on Tangible Common Equity 17.8%, no year-over-year change mentioned.
Net Interest Margin 3.88%, declined by 6 basis points from the linked quarter due to a decline in loan yields outpacing the decrease in deposit costs.
Loan Balances Stable during the quarter, with first quarter loan production being seasonally lower.
Fee Income $61,000,000, representing a decline from the linked quarter due to seasonal fluctuations and less foreign exchange income.
Noninterest Expenses Declined by 3.3% due to a decrease in incentive compensation and lower fraud losses.
Tangible Common Equity Ratio Increased to 8.2%, no year-over-year change mentioned.
Tangible Book Value Per Share $14.8, representing a 5% increase from the linked quarter and 18% over the last year.
Net Charge Offs Declined by 4 basis points from the linked quarter, with first quarter net charge offs at 36 basis points on an annualized basis.
Nonperforming Assets Declined by 9.5% from the linked quarter.
Average Deposit Balances Decreased by $99,000,000 due primarily to a seasonal decline in public funds and lower broker deposit balances.
Adjusted Net Income $60,200,000, or $0.63 per share for the quarter.
Provision Expense $8,700,000 driven by net charge offs.
ACL Coverage Unchanged at 1.33% of total loans.
Classified Assets Decreased by 5 basis points to 1.16% of total assets.
Total Shareholder Return 45% of earnings returned to shareholders during the period through the common dividend.
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Operating Highlights
Loan Growth Expectations: Expect modest growth in loan production in Q2, with healthy pipelines in consumer, C and I, and ICRE lines of business.
Fee Income Projections: Expect fee income to be between $64,000,000 and $66,000,000 for Q2, including $13,000,000 to $15,000,000 for foreign exchange and $18,000,000 to $20,000,000 for leasing business revenue.
Expense Management: Noninterest expenses declined by 3.3% due to lower incentive compensation and fraud losses.
Efficiency Initiatives: Ongoing efficiency efforts have resulted in a 7% reduction in FTE, with expectations for additional benefits in future periods.
Community Engagement: Received Gallup Exceptional Workplace Award for associate engagement and an outstanding Community Investment Act rating from the Federal Reserve.
M&A Discussions: Increased M&A discussions, though current economic uncertainty may prolong decision-making.
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Risk or Challenges
Economic Factors: There is uncertainty regarding the economic outlook, which may impact capital deployment and M&A discussions. The company is closely monitoring the economic environment and its potential effects on loan growth and asset quality.
Tariff Uncertainty: The company is concerned about the impact of tariffs on clients' cost structures and demand. They are actively engaging with clients to understand how tariffs may affect their businesses.
Loan Growth Challenges: Loan growth is expected to be pressured due to elevated prepayments, particularly in the ICRE portfolio, and seasonal fluctuations. The company anticipates modest growth in the second quarter.
Asset Quality Risks: There was a notable increase in charge-offs related to a specific C and I credit, which accounted for a significant portion of the total charge-offs. The company is monitoring asset quality closely.
Regulatory Issues: The company maintains strong capital ratios that exceed regulatory minimums, but ongoing regulatory scrutiny remains a consideration.
Supply Chain Challenges: The company is aware of potential supply chain disruptions due to tariffs, which could affect client operations and overall economic demand.
Market Volatility: The current macroeconomic uncertainty may lead to increased volatility in foreign exchange and other financial products, which could impact revenue.
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Guidance & Outlook
Tangible Book Value Growth: Tangible book value per share increased to $14.8, representing a 5% increase from the linked quarter and 18% over the last year.
Community Investment Act Rating: Received an outstanding Community Investment Act rating from the Federal Reserve, reflecting commitment to community service.
Gallup Exceptional Workplace Award: First Financial has been selected for the Gallup Exceptional Workplace Award for associate engagement.
Expense Management: Noninterest expenses declined by 3.3% due to decreased incentive compensation and lower fraud losses.
Efficiency Initiatives: Ongoing efficiency efforts have resulted in a 7% reduction in FTE.
Loan Growth: Expect modest growth in loan production in Q2, with healthy pipelines in consumer, C and I, and ICRE lines of business.
Net Interest Margin: Expect net interest margin to expand to a range between 3.95% and 4.05% over the next quarter.
Fee Income: Expect fee income to be between $64 million and $66 million for the next quarter.
Non-Interest Expense: Expect non-interest expense to be between $126 million and $128 million.
Credit Costs: Expect credit costs to be stable with net charge offs declining further.
Capital Deployment: Expect to maintain dividend at current level and continue evaluating capital actions.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Dividend Payout: 45% of earnings returned to shareholders through common dividends.
Shareholder Return Commitment: The company maintains its commitment to provide an attractive return to shareholders and continues to evaluate capital actions that support that commitment.
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Key Q&A
Q:Are you or have you taken any steps to reduce the asset sensitivity on the balance sheet?
A:Our balance sheet is asset sensitive. We expect a 10 to 15 basis point drop in our deposit cost in the second quarter, which will benefit the margin. A 25 basis point cut will typically have about a five to six basis point drop in our net interest margin.
Q:Is there any change in your view toward capital deployment given the current environment with tariff uncertainty?
A:There has been more M&A discussions in the last quarter, but current uncertainty has slowed down some discussions.
Q:Can you go through the review process and any specific trends or industries that you worked through this last quarter?
A:We saw some payoffs of classified loans during the quarter, with one large C and I credit making up about 70% of the charge offs.
Q:What’s the outlook for Summit, Oak Hill, Agile?
A:Agile will ramp up in the middle part of the year, and we believe asset quality will continue to be very good. Oak Street has solid asset quality, and Summit has great originations.
Q:Is the right way to think about the back half of the year and kind of more normalized growth still what you were thinking before?
A:We were thinking 6% to 7% for the full year, but now we’re thinking 4% to 5% due to elevated payoffs.
Q:What are your expectations for net charge offs?
A:We expect net charge offs to be in the range of 25 to 30 basis points for the year.
Q:What part of the book might be worth watching closer due to tariff exposure?
A:We are staying close to our clients to understand how tariffs impact their cost structure or demand. There’s no specific business that’s more susceptible, but some may have more direct supply from China.
Q:Does macro uncertainty drive more volatility or demand for foreign exchange products?
A:Volatility is generally good for the foreign exchange business.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided giving a direct answer regarding the specific impact of tariffs on capital deployment and the potential for M&A activity, indicating uncertainty in the current environment. Additionally, while they discussed loan growth expectations, the details around specific industries or clients affected by tariffs were vague.
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