EastGroup Properties, Inc. (EGP) Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call reveals mixed sentiments: while there are positive aspects such as a strong balance sheet, diversified tenant base, and strategic market positioning, there are also concerns about leasing activity delays and bad debt, particularly in California. The Q&A section highlights uncertainties in development leasing and management's vague responses to certain questions. Although there are optimistic guidance and strategic market expansions, the overall sentiment remains balanced due to these concerns and lack of clear catalysts for immediate growth.
Key Financial Performance
Funds from Operations (FFO) per share $2.21 per share, up 7.8% year-over-year. The increase is attributed to the quality of the portfolio and resiliency within the industrial market.
Quarter-end Leasing 97.1% with occupancy at 96%. Average quarterly occupancy was 95.9%, down 110 basis points from the second quarter of 2024. The decline is due to slower decision-making in larger spaces.
Quarterly Re-leasing Spreads 44% GAAP and 30% cash. Year-to-date results were similar at 46% GAAP and 31% cash. The spreads reflect strong leasing performance.
Cash Same-Store NOI Rose 6.4% for the quarter despite lower occupancy. This growth is attributed to the diversified rent roll and strategic leasing decisions.
Top 10 Tenants' Contribution to Rents 6.9% of rents, down 90 basis points from last year. This reflects a strategic focus on geographic and revenue diversity.
Development Investments $61 million invested in 2 new properties, increasing market ownership in Raleigh to approximately 600,000 square feet. This investment aligns with growth in the Research Triangle Park area.
Debt to Total Market Capitalization 14.2%. This metric highlights the company's strong balance sheet and financial flexibility.
Unadjusted Debt-to-EBITDA Ratio 3.0x. This reflects the company's low leverage and strong financial position.
Interest and Fixed Charge Coverage 16x. This indicates strong financial health and the ability to meet financial obligations.
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Operating Highlights
Funds from Operations (FFO): FFO per share was $2.21, up 7.8% from the prior year quarter, marking over a decade of consistent year-over-year growth.
Development Pipeline: Invested $61 million in two new properties in Raleigh, increasing market ownership to 600,000 square feet near Research Triangle Park.
Leasing Activity: Quarter-end leasing was 97.1% with occupancy at 96%. Re-leasing spreads were 44% GAAP and 30% cash for the quarter.
Geographic Expansion: Targeting geographic and revenue diversity to stabilize earnings, with top 10 tenants now accounting for only 6.9% of rents.
Operational Efficiency: Cash same-store NOI rose 6.4% for the quarter despite lower occupancy. Tenant collections remain healthy, with uncollectible rents estimated at 35-45 basis points of revenues.
Balance Sheet Strength: Debt-to-total market capitalization was 14.2%, and interest and fixed charge coverage increased to 16x. Settled forward share agreements for $194 million in gross proceeds.
Development Strategy: Reforecasted 2025 development starts to $215 million, focusing on demand-driven starts and leveraging land and permits in hand.
Market Positioning: Positioned to capitalize on limited supply pipeline and rising rents due to demand stabilization. Benefiting from trends like population migration and nearshoring.
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Risk or Challenges
Occupancy Rate Decline: Average quarterly occupancy was 95.9%, down 110 basis points from the second quarter of 2024, indicating a potential challenge in maintaining high occupancy levels.
Slower Development Leasing: Larger square footage decision-making is slower, impacting the pace of development leasing and lowering development start projections for 2025.
Economic Uncertainty: Tariff discussions and macroeconomic uncertainty are creating challenges in long-term capital decision-making and market demand.
Delayed Expansions: Delays in tenant expansions are affecting the leasing of larger spaces and slowing down the development pipeline.
Uncollectible Rents: Uncollectible rents are estimated to be slightly ahead of the historic run rate, posing a minor financial risk.
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Guidance & Outlook
Development Pipeline: Development pipeline leasing is progressing but at a slower pace. Development start projections for 2025 have been reforecasted to $215 million, leaning towards the back end of the year. The company follows market demand to dictate the pace of starts.
Market Trends and Demand: The supply pipeline continues to decline, with historically low starts this quarter. Limited availability of modern facilities is expected to put upward pressure on rents as demand stabilizes. The company aims to capitalize on development opportunities earlier than private peers.
FFO Guidance: FFO guidance for Q3 2025 is estimated to be in the range of $2.22 to $2.30 per share, with an average month-end occupancy range of 95.3% to 96.1%. For the full year, FFO per share is estimated in the range of $8.89 to $9.03, with the midpoint up $0.02 per share from prior guidance. This represents increases of 6.1% to 7.3% compared to the prior year.
Cash Same-Store Growth and Occupancy: Revised guidance increases the midpoint for cash same-store growth by 20 basis points to 6.5% and decreases average occupancy by 10 basis points due to the conversion of a few development projects prior to full occupancy.
Tenant Collections: Tenant collections remain healthy, with uncollectible rents estimated to be in the 35 to 45 basis point range as a percentage of revenues, slightly ahead of the historic run rate.
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Key Q&A
Q:Can you talk about the cadence of leasing through the second quarter and provide any color on July, whether it's in your core portfolio or the leasing on the development side?
A:Leasing in the first quarter and the tail end of last year was strong. The second quarter saw continued signing, with the portfolio staying full. Development leasing has been slower, with leases signed mostly in the 30,000 to 50,000 square feet range. There have been instances where development leases were put on hold by tenants. The market seems to be gradually improving, with June and July showing slight improvements.
Q:Are you expecting more downside to average month-end occupancy in the third quarter? What factors are driving this, and can you touch on the leasing activity at projects coming into the portfolio with vacancy?
A:The decrease in occupancy is mainly due to under-leased development properties coming online. Same-store occupancy is projected at 96.7% for the third quarter, while the overall portfolio is at 95.7%. Development leasing has been slower, but the operating portfolio is performing well. The company builds spec office space to accommodate quick tenant move-ins.
Q:Can you discuss the mechanisms you're using to focus on occupancy and get deals done? Are you adjusting rent or concessions, and in which markets?
A:The company is maintaining or beating investment committee yields on projects, with rents slightly higher but taking longer to lease. Concessions are not broadly used, except in California, particularly Los Angeles, where there have been 10 consecutive quarters of negative absorption. The focus is on quickly finalizing deals to avoid delays caused by external factors.
Q:How much of your leasing pipeline is in advanced stages, and what is the magnitude of deals that could close quickly?
A:The leasing pipeline is full, with some larger deals close to the finish line. However, decision-making has been elongated, especially in the final stages of lease agreements. The company is prepared to move quickly on development starts and tenant move-ins when demand picks up.
Q:Can you provide details on the transaction activity, particularly the Raleigh assets, and the increase in disposition guidance?
A:The Raleigh assets are in a low-vacancy submarket with strong investment from companies. The company is focusing on state capitals with large university presences for long-term NAV growth. Dispositions include older, slower-growth markets like Jackson, New Orleans, and Fresno, with proceeds being reinvested in higher-growth areas.
Q:Do you see re-leasing spreads remaining healthy over the next 12 months, and are there geographic differences?
A:Re-leasing spreads are expected to remain healthy, with embedded rent growth still being worked through. Vacancy in the company's type of space is around 4%, lower than the national average of 7.5%. Rent growth is currently around inflation levels (0%-5%) and is expected to pick up as demand increases.
Q:How do you view the cost of your credit facility versus the cost of equity, and where do you feel comfortable with net debt to EBITDA?
A:The credit facility cost is around 5.2%, and the company continuously monitors the cost of equity and debt. The maximum leverage target is below 5x net debt to EBITDA, with no specific floor. The company values flexibility and will adjust based on market conditions.
Q:Are you still actively supplementing your land bank, and are there parts of the land bank likely to sit for a while?
A:The company is actively looking for land in strategic submarkets to accommodate tenant growth. Some markets, like San Antonio, may take longer to develop due to slower growth. Zoning challenges make it difficult to find good land sites.
Q:How aggressive do you want to expand in Raleigh, and was entering the market a strategic move to facilitate future growth?
A:The company likes the Raleigh market and has made strategic acquisitions there. While there are no set goals for expansion, the company is open to further growth if the right opportunities arise. Entering the market helps build broker relationships and facilitates future acquisitions or development.
Q:What are your views on bid-ask spreads for acquisitions, and are you getting paid for risk?
A:The acquisition market has become efficient, with cap rates holding steady or tightening slightly. The company is focusing on strategic investments and views dispositions as an attractive source of capital in the current market.
Q:Can you provide an update on your watch list and how you're tracking versus bad debt assumptions for the year?
A:The watch list has remained steady, with about 30 tenants out of over 1,500 being monitored. Bad debt for the second quarter was 30 basis points of revenue, below the run rate from last year. California-based tenants represent about half of the bad debt.
Q:What was total leasing development in square feet in the second quarter?
A:The total leasing development in the second quarter was approximately 180,000 square feet, with smaller deals being signed.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided giving a direct answer to the question about specific catalysts that could unlock development pipeline leasing. They speculated on factors like tariff news and general market sentiment but did not provide concrete details or timelines.
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