Air Products and Chemicals, Inc. (APD) Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call presents a mixed outlook. While there are positive developments such as growth in equity affiliate income and expansion in electronics, there are concerns about macroeconomic headwinds, unclear guidance on key projects, and increased CapEx forecasts. The lack of specific guidance and potential project delays balance out the positive aspects, leading to a neutral sentiment.
Key Financial Performance
Earnings Per Share (EPS) $12.03, a decrease of $0.40 or 3% year-over-year. The decline was driven by a 4% headwind from LNG divestiture and a 2% headwind from project exits. Without these discrete items, EPS would have increased by 3%. Additional headwinds included unfavorable helium volume and pricing, partially offset by stronger non-helium pricing actions, productivity improvements, and favorable on-site and merchant contributions.
Operating Income Margin 23.7%, a decline of 70 basis points year-over-year. This was largely driven by higher energy cost pass-through, partially offset by productivity improvements and non-helium price increases.
Return on Capital Employed (ROCE) 10.1%, a decrease compared to the prior year. The decline was attributed to the continued exit from the project backlog.
Dividend Payments $1.6 billion returned to shareholders in fiscal 2025. This marks the 43rd consecutive year of increasing dividends.
Headcount Reductions 3,600 reductions since 2022, translating to 16% of the peak workforce. These reductions are expected to contribute approximately $250 million in annual cost savings or $0.90 per share in earnings once complete. The reductions were implemented to offset inflation and adapt to a lower level of capital expenditure.
Segment Results - Americas Down 3% year-over-year. This was due to a one-time asset sale in the prior year, headwinds from project exits, helium, and higher maintenance-related costs. These were partially offset by strong non-helium pricing actions, productivity improvements, and favorable on-site contributions from the HyCO business.
Segment Results - Asia Relatively flat year-over-year. Lower helium contributions were offset by favorable on-site, non-helium pricing, and productivity improvements. Additionally, two coal gasification projects were sold within the region.
Segment Results - Europe Improved by 4% year-over-year. Non-helium merchant pricing, productivity, and favorable on-site contributions were partially offset by lower helium and higher costs associated with depreciation and fixed cost inflation.
Middle East and India Equity Affiliates Income Decreased by 2% year-over-year, primarily due to lower contributions from the Jazan joint venture.
Corporate and Other Segment Results Impacted by the prior year sale of LNG, partially offset by lower changes to the sale of equipment project estimates and lower costs due to productivity improvements.
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Operating Highlights
NEOM Project: The NEOM project is progressing well, with solar and wind power generation expected to be completed by early 2026. Ammonia production is anticipated to be fully operational by 2027. The project aims to supply green ammonia to Europe competitively without public subsidies.
Blue Hydrogen Project in Louisiana: The project is on hold for new commitments until firm offtake agreements are reached. Proposals to divest carbon sequestration and ammonia production assets are being evaluated.
Green Hydrogen Market: The NEOM project targets the green hydrogen market, which is expected to grow significantly due to regulatory mandates like the EU's Red III mandate. The demand for green hydrogen is projected to be seven times the total production of the NEOM project by 2030.
Cost Savings from Workforce Reduction: Since 2022, 3,600 headcount reductions have been identified, translating to 16% of the peak workforce. This is expected to save $250 million annually or $0.90 per share in earnings.
Capital Expenditure Optimization: Capital expenditures are expected to reduce to $2.5 billion annually after 2026, focusing on traditional industrial gas projects and maintenance.
Portfolio Optimization: Efforts are underway to improve underperforming projects through commercial negotiations and operational improvements. Two coal gasification projects in Asia have been sold.
Capital Allocation Strategy: The company plans to balance capital allocation by reducing expenditures, growing dividends, and potentially initiating share buybacks.
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Risk or Challenges
Macroeconomic Environment: The company anticipates additional helium headwinds in a sluggish macroeconomic environment, which could impact earnings growth.
Underperforming Projects: The company is working to improve underperforming projects in its portfolio, which are not expected to contribute materially to operating income. This includes commercial negotiations and operational improvements.
Capital Expenditures: Capital expenditures are expected to reduce to $2.5 billion per year after 2026, but the company still faces significant spending commitments on large projects, including $2.5 billion from 2026 to 2028.
NEOM Project Risks: The NEOM project, while progressing, involves significant capital investment and is dependent on market development for green ammonia and regulatory developments in Europe.
Louisiana Blue Hydrogen Project: The project is on hold until firm offtake agreements are reached, and the company is evaluating proposals to divest certain assets. This creates uncertainty around the project's future.
Workforce Reductions: The company plans to reduce its workforce by 3,600 positions, which, while aimed at cost savings, could impact employee morale and operational efficiency.
Helium Market Challenges: Reduced global helium demand and unfavorable pricing are ongoing challenges, impacting volume and earnings.
Asset Sales and Project Exits: The company has exited certain projects and sold assets, including two coal gasification projects in Asia, which could impact future revenue streams.
Energy Cost Pass-Through: Higher energy costs have led to a decline in operating income margin, which could continue to pressure profitability.
Regulatory and Market Risks: The success of projects like NEOM and Louisiana depends on regulatory approvals and market demand, which are uncertain and could impact returns.
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Guidance & Outlook
EPS Growth: The company expects to deliver high single-digit annual EPS growth in 2026, despite additional helium headwinds and a sluggish macroeconomic environment.
Capital Expenditures: Capital expenditures are expected to be about $4 billion in 2026, with a reduction to $2.5 billion per year after the completion of several large projects. This level of CapEx is expected to support ongoing maintenance, traditional industrial gas projects, and dividend growth.
NEOM Project: The NEOM project is progressing well, with solar and wind power generation to be completed by early 2026. Ammonia production is expected to be on stream with full product availability in 2027.
Blue Hydrogen Project in Louisiana: The company has halted new commitments until an offtake agreement is reached. Updates on this project are expected before the end of 2025.
Cost Savings from Workforce Reductions: The company expects to achieve $250 million in annual cost savings or $0.90 per share in earnings through a 16% reduction in workforce since 2022.
Green Hydrogen Market: The company is targeting the green ammonia market for the NEOM project and highlights the competitive pricing of its solution without public subsidies. Additional market development feedback will be provided in 2026.
2026 Financial Outlook: Earnings per share for 2026 are expected to range from $12.85 to $13.15, representing a 7% to 9% improvement from the prior year. Growth is expected through new asset contributions, pricing actions, and productivity improvements.
Cash Flow: The company expects to be modestly cash flow positive in fiscal year 2026 and aims to remain cash flow neutral through 2028 as it closes out several projects.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Dividend Increase: This year marks the 43rd consecutive year of increasing our dividend.
Total Dividends Returned: In total, we returned $1.6 billion to our shareholders in fiscal 2025.
Share Buybacks: Longer term, returning additional cash to shareholders via share buybacks is planned.
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Key Q&A
Q:Are the divestment of the carbon capture piece and the continuation of the Louisiana project linked?
A:Yes, the divestment of the carbon capture piece is connected to the overall Louisiana project. Air Products is evaluating proposals to sell the pore spaces for CO2 sequestration and provide the service from another location. If the project does not proceed, the pore space asset can still be monetized.
Q:Why doesn't the company stop the Alberta project despite high cost overruns?
A:The company has a long-term contractual commitment for almost 50% of the volume with a major customer, which necessitates the project's completion. Additionally, the company is working to place the additional volume in the market and has infrastructure in place to support this.
Q:Is the 20,000 employee headcount a new base, or could it go lower?
A:The 20,000 headcount is expected by the end of the year, but the company continues to find ways to rationalize the workforce. The goal is to return to the 2018 level of 18,500 employees plus the necessary additions for new assets.
Q:What would be the remaining CapEx for the Louisiana project if it moves forward with offtaker partners?
A:The company will provide the CapEx data when they update the project. They emphasized that no offtake deals mean no final investment decision (FID). They are working on finding solutions and will provide a full update before the end of the year.
Q:What is the breakdown of the 11% underlying growth for next year?
A:The growth includes 2-3% from new assets in Asia and the Americas, with the balance coming equally from price and productivity improvements. The helium headwind is expected to be similar to this year.
Q:What is the company's view on the helium industry going forward?
A:The company sees some decline in 2027 but not at the same level as this year. They believe the market will stabilize after 2027, aided by major players installing their own storage facilities.
Q:What are the commercial options if the company forgoes downstream investment in NEOM?
A:The company would need to commercialize the product as ammonia initially. The market for green and blue ammonia is developing, and the percentage of production sold as green ammonia is expected to grow over time. Specific forecasts for 2027 are not yet available.
Q:What drove the meaningful growth in equity affiliate income in the Americas this quarter?
A:The growth was driven by the Mexican joint venture, which had a strong second half of the year. The company expects flat performance next year but anticipates improvement in the Jazan joint venture as interest rates decline.
Q:What is the range of scenarios for the Louisiana project decision?
A:The decision could be a go or no-go, meaning the project could be canceled or proceed. The company is in advanced negotiations and is carefully evaluating the capital estimate and construction market conditions. A clear update will be provided before the end of the year.
Q:What is the company's forecast for market volume growth next year?
A:The company is not forecasting significant market volume growth due to macroeconomic headwinds. However, they expect volume growth from new assets coming online in the Americas and Asia.
Q:Why has the CapEx forecast for fiscal '26 increased from $3.1 billion to $4 billion?
A:The increase is due to a refined bottom-up forecast based on new wins in different regions. Maintenance improvements could reduce the CapEx number, but the current forecast is $4 billion.
Q:What is the company's position on electronics growth and backlog?
A:Electronics represent 17% of total sales and are a key growth area. The company is commissioning new plants in Asia and participating in bids for additional projects. They aim to expand their strong position in this market.
Q:What is the status of the Uzbekistan and GCA projects?
A:The Uzbekistan syngas facility is operating well after scheduled maintenance. The GCA project is still being finalized and is expected to contribute in fiscal 2026.
Q:Is the company still planning to build an ammonia cracker in Europe?
A:The company is waiting for final regulations in Europe to determine the market size for green hydrogen and ammonia. If the project makes sense and there is an offtake agreement, they will proceed with an FID.
Q:What was the assumption for NEOM in the company's 6-9% growth target through 2029?
A:The guidance includes a minimal contribution from NEOM, primarily from the joint venture. The contribution from product sales is still being evaluated.
Q:What is the company's strategy for the coal gasification projects in Asia?
A:The company is divesting two coal gasification projects in China due to customer issues, while the Lu'An project continues to operate well. They are in the process of selling the assets to maximize valuation.
Q:What is the company's view on rare gases like krypton, xenon, and neon?
A:The company is not a major player in this market and has observed some price degradation and increased competition, but it does not significantly affect their business.
Q:What is the potential return on the Louisiana project if partners for sequestration and ammonia are secured?
A:The project needs to meet the return criteria for both Air Products and its partners. The company believes there is room to achieve the right returns, but this depends on commercial negotiations and a firm capital cost estimate.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided providing specific details on the remaining CapEx for the Louisiana project, the exact numbers for green ammonia production in NEOM, and the potential proceeds from the sale of coal gasification projects in Asia. Additionally, they did not quantify the minimal market volume growth forecast for next year or provide a detailed breakdown of the CapEx increase for fiscal '26.
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