Thomson Reuters Corporation (TRI:CA) Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The company reported strong organic revenue growth and positive product development, particularly in AI innovations, despite some competitive pressures. Shareholder returns are prioritized with planned share repurchases. The Q&A revealed confidence in achieving 2026 targets and positive reception of AI products, though some lack of detail in guidance was noted. Overall, strong financial metrics and optimistic guidance suggest a positive stock price movement.
Key Financial Performance
Full Year Organic Revenue Growth 7% growth year-over-year, driven by 9% growth for the Big 3 segments. This growth was attributed to strong performance in Legal, Corporates, and Tax, Audit & Accounting segments.
Adjusted EBITDA Margin Expanded by 100 basis points to 39.2%, meeting the company's outlook. The increase was due to healthy operating leverage and cost discipline.
Free Cash Flow $1.95 billion, slightly ahead of expectations. The increase was primarily driven by EBITDA growth.
Fourth Quarter Organic Revenue Growth 7% growth year-over-year. Organic recurring and transactional revenue grew 9% and 8%, respectively, while Print revenues declined 6%.
Fourth Quarter Adjusted EBITDA $777 million, an 8% increase year-over-year, with a 110 basis point margin increase to 38.7%. This was due to healthy operating leverage and cost discipline.
Legal Professionals Organic Revenue Growth 9% growth year-over-year, driven by momentum from Westlaw and CoCounsel, despite slower government growth.
Corporates Organic Revenue Growth 9% growth year-over-year, driven by offerings in legal, tax, and risk portfolios, as well as international businesses.
Tax, Audit & Accounting Organic Revenue Growth 11% growth year-over-year, driven by UltraTax, Latin American business, and CoCounsel.
Reuters Organic Revenue Growth 5% growth year-over-year, driven by growth in the agency business and the contract with LSEG.
Global Print Organic Revenue Decline 6% decline year-over-year, in line with expectations.
Adjusted Earnings Per Share (EPS) $3.92 for the full year, compared to $3.77 in the prior year. The increase was driven by EBITDA growth.
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Operating Highlights
Westlaw Advantage: The launch has gone extremely well with early sales and customer feedback indicating a new standard in legal research capabilities.
CoCounsel Legal unified solution and CoCounsel for Tax & Audit: Initial customer feedback and sales activity across these offerings have been encouraging.
Legal AI workflows: Seen as a significant white space opportunity, largely incremental to traditional research and know-how stronghold.
AI-enabled offerings: Commercial momentum continues to build, highlighted by several large wins, including Microsoft.
AI-driven automation: Implemented a disciplined top-down approach to driving transformation at scale through AI-driven automation, with 3-year AI roadmaps for all segments and functions.
AI in software development: Over 80% of engineers actively use AI-powered tools, reducing lead times and improving quality at scale.
AI in customer support: Automated knowledge search and content creation, reducing call average handle time by 15% and boosting first call resolution by 10%.
AI in content operations: Accelerated U.S. content delivery to Westlaw by 25%, improving speed and quality of proprietary content.
Capital allocation: Invested $850 million into M&A, executed a $1 billion share repurchase program, and announced a 10% increase in annual common stock dividend.
AI-driven internal transformation: Focused on reimagining work processes to increase productivity, accelerate decision-making, and improve customer experiences.
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Risk or Challenges
AI competition concerns: Concerns about competition in the AI space have led to recent share price volatility. The company is optimistic about its proprietary content and expertise but acknowledges the competitive pressures in delivering professional-grade AI solutions.
Government growth slowdown: Slower growth from government clients was noted, with expectations of further slowing in Q1 due to government cancellations.
Interest expense increase: Interest expense was higher than forecasted due to the pace of the share repurchase program and declines in market interest rates, leading to lower interest income.
Print revenue decline: Global Print revenues declined by 6% in Q4 and 5% for the full year, reflecting ongoing challenges in this segment.
Severance costs: The company incurred $19 million in severance costs in Q4 and expects an additional $10 million in Q1 as part of its automation and productivity initiatives.
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Guidance & Outlook
AI-driven innovation and product development: Thomson Reuters plans to continue leveraging proprietary content and deep domain expertise to develop advanced AI capabilities, including Agentic AI workflows. The company aims to expand these capabilities across its legal, tax, and risk offerings by mid-2026.
Revenue growth outlook: The company reaffirms its 2026 organic revenue growth target of 7.5% to 8%, with approximately 9.5% growth expected for its Big 3 segments (Legal Professionals, Corporates, and Tax, Audit & Accounting Professionals).
Segment-specific growth projections: For 2026, Legal Professionals are expected to grow by 8% to 9%, Corporates by 9% to 11%, and Tax, Audit & Accounting Professionals by 11% to 13%.
Adjusted EBITDA margin expansion: Thomson Reuters forecasts a 100 basis point annual expansion in adjusted EBITDA margin for 2026, 2027, and 2028, supported by automation and productivity initiatives.
Free cash flow projection: The company expects free cash flow to increase to approximately $2.1 billion in 2026, up from $1.95 billion in 2025.
Capital expenditures: Accrued capital expenditures as a percentage of revenue are expected to remain at approximately 8% in 2026, consistent with recent trends.
AI-driven internal transformation: Thomson Reuters is implementing AI-driven automation across various functions, including software development, customer support, and content operations, to enhance productivity and decision-making. The company has over 300 AI use cases in development.
Dividend growth: The company announced a 10% increase in its annual dividend for 2026, marking the 33rd consecutive year of dividend growth.
Capital allocation strategy: Thomson Reuters plans to maintain a balanced capital allocation approach, including strategic M&A, dividend growth, and share repurchases, with an estimated $11 billion of capital capacity through 2028.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Dividend Increase: Announced a 10% increase in the annual common stock dividend for 2026, raising it to $2.62 per share from $2.38 in 2025. This marks the 33rd consecutive year of annual dividend increases and the fifth consecutive 10% increase.
Share Repurchase Program: Completed a $1 billion share repurchase program in October 2025, retiring 6 million shares. Returned slightly more than 100% of 2025 free cash flow through dividends and buybacks, exceeding the 75% return commitment.
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Key Q&A
Q:What caused the slowdown in Legal recurring growth from Q3 to Q4, and what government headwinds are expected in 2026?
A:The slowdown in Legal recurring growth was associated with the Government business. Legal Professionals, excluding Government, showed momentum driven by AI-driven innovation in products like Westlaw and CoCounsel. However, Government cancellations discussed in Q3 led to a slowdown in Government growth in Q1 2026. Legal Professionals are expected to achieve 8%-9% growth for the full year 2026, with potential quarterly variations due to Government factors.
Q:What is the competitive moat around Westlaw and Practical Law, and why can't competitors replicate it using AI tools?
A:The competitive moat includes decades or centuries of unique, curated content created by skilled lawyers, deep domain expertise from thousands of attorney editors, and professional-grade AI that is more sophisticated and accurate than general-purpose AI. Westlaw Advantage, launched in August, has reset the bar in legal research and remains unmatched. The company is leveraging its content and expertise to train AI agents for other flagship products.
Q:How is the company prioritizing share buybacks and capital returns given recent share price actions?
A:The company continues its balanced capital allocation strategy, including annual dividend growth, strategic M&A, and capital returns. Share repurchases are considered attractive at current levels, and the company plans to return 75% of its free cash flow to investors in 2026, requiring about $500 million in share repurchases in addition to dividends.
Q:What is the size and adoption progress of CoCounsel and Westlaw Advantage, and how do they contribute to 2026 guidance?
A:Specific dollar ACV numbers for CoCounsel and Westlaw Advantage are not disclosed, but both products have been well-received across large, medium, and small firms. Westlaw Advantage adoption is higher than prior releases, and GenAI offerings like CoCounsel Legal, CoCounsel for Tax & Audit, and others are key contributors to the company's confidence in achieving 2026 revenue guidance.
Q:How does the pace of AI innovation impact strategic M&A, and are private market valuations adjusting?
A:M&A remains challenging, and the company maintains a high bar for acquisitions, focusing on customer experience, modern tech, financial viability, and cultural fit. Private market valuations for high-quality assets remain high, and the company is well-positioned with $11 billion of capital to deploy by 2028. The company is cautious about overestimating the pace of valuation adjustments in private markets.
Q:How does the company monetize AI product innovations in an environment of flat or declining enterprise headcount?
A:The company does not price on a headcount basis but focuses on value-based pricing. AI tools like CoCounsel help customers achieve efficiency and cost savings, making the company a beneficiary of headcount reductions. Pricing trends for 2026 are expected to yield slightly higher overall pricing compared to 2025.
Q:What feedback is the company receiving on AI solutions in Tax & Accounting, and how does it compare to general-purpose AI tools?
A:Customers are not experimenting with general-purpose AI tools for tasks like e-invoicing or accounts receivable automation. The company's solutions, like Pagero for e-invoicing, are highly accurate, fast, and well-received. The company is using AI to build out the value chain in Tax & Accounting, starting with products like Ready to Review and Ready to Advise.
Q:What is the differentiation or moat in the Tax & Accounting business?
A:The differentiation lies in the company's tax calculation engines, which are highly accurate, fast, and sticky due to their critical role in tax filing. The company is extending its capabilities into related activities like data collection, e-filing, and integration, addressing the industry's talent shortage and increasing demand for tax services.
Q:How are sophisticated legal clients using AI tools like Westlaw and CoCounsel, and what is the impact on their usage patterns?
A:Sophisticated legal clients are increasingly adopting AI tools, which are becoming integral to their daily workflows. These tools are used for tasks like legal research, drafting, and summarization, enabling clients to achieve efficiency and cost savings. The adoption of these tools is expected to grow as clients integrate them into their operations.
Q:What is the company's approach to severance costs and productivity improvements in 2026?
A:The company incurred $19 million in severance costs in 2025, slightly higher than anticipated, and expects $20 million in severance costs for 2026. These costs are spread across segments and functions. The company is focused on productivity improvements and has over 300 use cases in execution mode, contributing to its confidence in achieving 2026 targets.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided providing specific dollar ACV numbers for CoCounsel and Westlaw Advantage, citing early days in their development. Additionally, they did not break down Q1 2026 guidance by segment, maintaining a focus on total company performance. These responses lacked detailed numerical data and clarity.
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