Takeda Pharmaceutical Company Limited (TAK) Q3 FY2025 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call summary and Q&A reveal mixed signals. Revenue growth is modest, with some segments like QDENGA performing well, but others like TAKHZYRO facing competition. The company's strategic partnership and new product launches are positive but lack immediate impact. Uncertainty in guidance and potential pricing pressures from IRA negotiations further contribute to a neutral outlook. The dividend policy remains stable, but no clear shareholder return enhancement is evident. Overall, the lack of strong catalysts and mixed financial performance suggest a neutral stock price movement in the short term.
Key Financial Performance
Revenue JPY 3.4 trillion for the 9 months period, a decrease of 3.3% year-over-year or minus 2.8% at constant exchange rate (CER). The decline was attributed to the significant impact of VYVANSE generic erosion.
Core Operating Profit (Core OP) JPY 971.6 billion, a year-on-year decrease of 3.4% at both actual FX and CER. The decline was primarily due to the loss of exclusivity of high-margin VYVANSE, but operational efficiencies in R&D and SG&A expenses helped limit the impact.
Reported Operating Profit JPY 422.4 billion, an increase of 1.2% year-over-year. The increase was due to lower restructuring expenses, which offset the impairment of intangible assets.
Core EPS JPY 428, reflecting the financial performance of the company.
Reported EPS JPY 137, reflecting the financial performance of the company.
Adjusted Free Cash Flow JPY 625.9 billion, even after the upfront payment of USD 1.2 billion to Innovent Biologics in December. This indicates strong cash flow performance.
Growth and Launch Products Revenue Over 50% of total revenue, grew 6.7% at CER. This was an improvement from the 5% growth rate in Q1 and Q2. ENTYVIO grew 7.4% at CER, driven by ENTYVIO Pen and formulary inclusion with major pharmacy benefit managers.
TAKHZYRO Revenue Slowed to 2.4% growth at CER due to strong uptake in international markets being offset by new competing products in the U.S.
Plasma-Derived Therapies (PDT) Revenue Albumin returned to growth of 1.3%, but slower than expected due to softening demand in China. IG growth was 4.3% year-to-date, driven by subcutaneous IG products, while IVIG sales were impacted by Medicare Part D redesign in the U.S.
Vaccines Revenue QDENGA growth accelerated to 22.1%, driven primarily by Brazil.
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Operating Highlights
Oveporexton: First orexin agonist submitted to the FDA with significant Phase III results. Expected to transform treatment for narcolepsy type 1. Awaiting FDA acceptance.
Rusfertide: Hepcidin mimetic for polycythemia vera with durable hematocrit control. NDA submitted to FDA, awaiting acceptance.
Zasocitinib: Highly selective TYK2 inhibitor for psoriasis. Positive Phase III data, regulatory filing underway, expected launch in 2027.
ENTYVIO: Maintained leadership in the IBD market with 7.4% growth at CER. ENTYVIO Pen now on formulary with major pharmacy benefit managers.
QDENGA: Achieved 22.1% growth, driven by Brazil.
Cost Management: Disciplined cost management offset VYVANSE generic erosion impact. Core operating profit decreased by 3.4% but was mitigated by operational efficiencies.
R&D Investment: Focused on ramping up investments for new product launches while maintaining cost efficiency.
Leadership Transition: Christophe Weber transitioning leadership to Julie Kim, ensuring continuity and focus on upcoming launches.
AI and Technology Adoption: Plans to redesign processes and adopt AI for operational improvements.
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Risk or Challenges
VYVANSE generic erosion: The company is managing the significant impact of VYVANSE generic erosion, which has caused a decline in revenue and profit. This erosion is heavily weighted to the first half of the year, but its impact is tapering off.
ENTYVIO biosimilar entry: The anticipated entry of ENTYVIO biosimilars from the early 2030s onwards could impact revenue. The company is relying on new product launches to offset this impact.
TAKHZYRO competition: Growth of TAKHZYRO has slowed due to the impact of new competing products in the U.S., which is offsetting strong uptake in international markets.
Albumin demand in China: Softening demand for albumin in China is putting pressure on other markets where supply is reallocated, potentially leading to slower-than-expected growth.
Medicare Part D redesign: IVIG sales have been impacted by the Medicare Part D redesign in the U.S., which is expected to normalize in Q4 but currently poses a challenge.
Operational cost pressures: The company is facing the need to ramp up investments for new product launches and late-stage pipeline programs, requiring additional R&D investments while maintaining cost discipline.
Regulatory and launch risks: The company is preparing for significant new product launches, which involve regulatory filing preparations and potential risks associated with approvals and market entry.
Economic and FX fluctuations: Revenue and profit forecasts have been adjusted due to foreign exchange fluctuations, which could continue to impact financial performance.
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Guidance & Outlook
Revenue Guidance: The company revised its revenue guidance to a low single-digit decline at constant exchange rate (CER), primarily due to stronger-than-anticipated VYVANSE generic erosion in the U.S.
Core Operating Profit (Core OP) and Core EPS: Despite the revenue revision, the company maintains its full-year guidance for core operating profit and core EPS, supported by strong operational expense discipline.
Adjusted Free Cash Flow: The company upgraded its adjusted free cash flow forecast.
Product Launches: Takeda plans to launch three transformative medicines—Oveporexton, Rusfertide, and Zasocitinib—over the next 18 months. These products are expected to offset the anticipated impact of ENTYVIO biosimilar entry from the early 2030s onwards.
Pipeline Expansion: The late-stage pipeline includes five additional innovative programs, two of which were recently added through a strategic partnership with Innovent Biologics. These programs are expected to provide sustainable growth drivers for Takeda well into the future.
Future Investments: The company plans to ramp up investments behind the three new product launches and additional late-stage pipeline programs, while pursuing cost efficiencies to minimize near-term profit impact.
Zasocitinib Launch Timeline: Zasocitinib is expected to launch in the first half of calendar year 2027.
Oveporexton and Rusfertide Launch Timeline: Both Oveporexton and Rusfertide are expected to launch within this calendar year.
Future Indication Expansion: Zasocitinib has potential for future indication expansion, including psoriatic arthritis and inflammatory bowel disease.
Oncology Pipeline: The oncology pipeline includes promising candidates such as TAK-928 and TAK-921, with Phase III decisions expected between 2026 and 2027.
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Shareholder Return Plan
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Key Q&A
Q:What are Milano-san's thoughts about the next fiscal year, considering new product contributions, marketing expenses, and dividend increases?
A:Milano-san stated that it is too early to provide guidance as the next fiscal year's budget is being finalized. He mentioned that growth products and launch products are maturing, and the gap between LOE and growth products is shrinking. The company is focusing on cost-saving measures while discerning necessary investments for product launches. R&D expenses are expected to increase due to new projects and partnerships.
Q:Do you have any comments about shareholder returns?
A:Milano-san emphasized the company's basic policy of progressive dividends, either keeping them flat or increasing them. Decisions on dividend increases will depend on core EPS, reported EPS, cash flow generation, and debt reduction.
Q:When can we expect the UC CD Phase II outcome for zasocitinib, and what about dosing and psoriasis safety data?
A:Andrew Plump stated that data from UC and Crohn's disease Phase IIb studies will be available this year. Both are dose-ranging studies, with the 30-milligram dose being the low end for IBD. Higher exposures may be necessary for efficacy. The psoriasis safety profile is consistent with previous studies, and detailed data will be presented at an upcoming medical conference.
Q:What are your thoughts on MFN and U.S. policy, and how will organizational changes impact U.S. marketing?
A:Julie Kim expressed opposition to MFN, citing its potential negative impact on innovation. The company is evaluating the impact of U.S. policies and taking necessary steps. Organizational changes aim to focus on oncology and U.S. marketing, with efforts to improve marketing and sales excellence for successful launches.
Q:Can you comment on ENTYVIO's Q3 performance and the impact of IRA price negotiations?
A:Christophe Weber highlighted improved U.S. coverage for ENTYVIO Pen and stable market share expectations. Julie Kim noted that IRA price negotiations were anticipated, and the impact on peak sales will depend on final pricing, which will be determined later this year.
Q:What is the outlook for TAKHZYRO and measures to increase operating profit amid rising R&D spending?
A:Julie Kim noted that TAKHZYRO remains the gold standard for HAE patients but faces competition and Medicare Part D redesign impacts. Milano-san mentioned that new products' contributions to profit depend on their uptake speed, with oveporexton expected to have a fast uptake. The company is also monitoring other pipeline assets and expects overall profit enhancement over the next 5-6 years.
Q:Is ENTYVIO Pen included in IRA price negotiations, and what are your thoughts on Alzheimer's disease prevention?
A:Julie Kim confirmed that ENTYVIO Pen is included in IRA price negotiations. Andrew Plump expressed optimism about early amyloid plaque clearance for Alzheimer's prevention and highlighted the potential of the AC Immune vaccine program.
Q:What is the progress and outlook for the PDT business, and when will zasocitinib Phase III data be presented?
A:Julie Kim mentioned a slowdown in albumin demand in China due to utilization guidelines but expects mid-single-digit growth for PDT overall. Andrew Plump stated that zasocitinib Phase III data will likely be presented at AAD, with key aspects including fast onset of action, clear skin, and ease of administration.
Q:What is the regulatory pathway and launch timing for zasocitinib, and has the ENTYVIO biosimilar entry timing changed?
A:Andrew Plump stated that zasocitinib's submission is expected this summer, with review timing to be discussed with the FDA. Julie Kim noted that ENTYVIO biosimilar timing remains unchanged, with patents extending to 2032 and potential legal challenges affecting timing.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided providing specific guidance for the next fiscal year, citing the need for more time to finalize budgets and assess the balance between LOE and growth products. They also did not disclose precise doses for zasocitinib in IBD studies or the exact timing of ENTYVIO biosimilar entry, leaving some questions unanswered.
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