PLDT Inc. (NYSE:PHI) Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call presents a mixed picture. Financial performance shows stable core income and revenue growth in fiber and ICT, but a decline in telco core income and mobile revenue. The Q&A reveals ongoing challenges, such as POGO revenue pressures and a lack of guidance for 2025 net income. However, there are positive aspects like the signing of a large hyperscale customer for VITRO and sustainable subscriber growth. The lack of guidance and ongoing depreciation costs offset some positives, resulting in a neutral sentiment.
Key Financial Performance
Revenue PHP 53.4 billion, up 2% year-on-year, driven by continued strength in fiber and ICT segments, coupled with prudent cost management.
EBITDA PHP 27.9 billion, up 2% year-on-year, driven by continued strength in fiber and ICT segments, coupled with prudent cost management.
Telco Core Income PHP 8.8 billion, down 6% year-on-year, reflecting increased depreciation linked to recent strategic investment in network infrastructure, coupled with related financing costs.
Core Income PHP 8.9 billion, steady year-on-year, driven by Maya’s positive earnings contribution as it turned profitable this quarter.
Home Revenue PHP 15.2 billion, up 4% year-on-year, thanks to continued fiber demand.
Fiber Revenue PHP 14.7 billion, up 7% year-on-year, reflecting the successful shift from legacy to fiber services.
Enterprise Revenue PHP 11.9 billion, steady year-on-year, with a slight 1% uptick in corporate data and ICT revenues.
ICT Revenue PHP 2.2 billion, up 16% year-on-year, now accounting for over 22% of enterprise revenues, up from 19% a year ago.
Mobile Revenue PHP 21.3 billion, down slightly year-on-year, due to lower packet Wi-Fi usage as customers shifted to smartphones or fixed data access.
ARPU Stable at around PHP 1,493, reflecting success in bundling high-value products while managing churn effectively.
Churn Rate Less than 2%, remains among the lowest in the industry.
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Operating Highlights
New Subscribers: Added 101,000 net new subscribers this quarter compared to negative net additions a year ago.
Fiber Revenue Growth: Home revenue rose 4% year-on-year, reaching PHP 15.2 billion, driven by fiber which posted a healthy 7% increase to PHP 14.7 billion.
Market Positioning in Fiber: Fiber now accounts for 97% of Home revenues, up from 92% in 2024.
ICT Revenue Growth: ICT segment grew 16% year-on-year to PHP 2.2 billion, now accounting for over 22% of enterprise revenues, up from 19% a year ago.
Cost Management: EBITDA grew by 2% to PHP 27.9 billion, driven by continued strength in fiber and ICT segments, coupled with prudent cost management.
Churn Rate: Churn rate of less than 2% remains among the lowest in the industry.
Strategic Investments: Increased depreciation linked to recent strategic investment in network infrastructure.
Focus on Emerging Technologies: Actively building a pipeline of new opportunities by leveraging emerging technologies.
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Risk or Challenges
Competitive Pressures: PLDT's connectivity business is navigating a transitional phase, indicating potential challenges in maintaining market share against competitors.
Regulatory Issues: No specific regulatory issues were mentioned, but the mention of strategic investments suggests potential scrutiny from regulatory bodies.
Supply Chain Challenges: The report does not explicitly mention supply chain challenges, but the increased depreciation linked to strategic investments may imply risks related to supply chain management.
Economic Factors: The slight decline in core income and the impact of financing costs suggest economic pressures that could affect future profitability.
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Guidance & Outlook
Revenue Growth Strategy: PLDT aims to pursue steady revenue growth through disciplined expense management, asset monetization, and prudent capital allocation.
Fiber Transition: The company is actively migrating legacy subscribers to fiber, which now accounts for 97% of Home revenues, up from 92% in 2024.
Emerging Technologies: PLDT is building a pipeline of new opportunities by leveraging emerging technologies to navigate the transitional phase of its connectivity business.
5G Adoption: The company is encouraged by rapid 5G adoption and a steady rise in data traffic, indicating potential for improved monetization and growth.
Core Income Outlook: Core income was steady at PHP 8.9 billion, driven by Maya’s positive earnings contribution as it turned profitable this quarter.
Revenue Projections: Net service revenue growth reflects stable demand across key business segments, with a 2% growth excluding legacy services.
Home Segment Growth: Home revenue rose 4% year-on-year to PHP 15.2 billion, driven by fiber demand.
Enterprise Segment Performance: Enterprise revenue remained steady at PHP 11.9 billion year-on-year, with ICT revenues growing 16% year-on-year to PHP 2.2 billion.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Share Buyback Program: PLDT has initiated a share buyback program, allocating $100 million for the repurchase of shares to enhance shareholder value.
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Key Q&A
Q:Is the impact from POGO-related revenue pressures all done, or do you still see further downturn from this segment?
A:We’re still anticipating a continuation of the impact, especially from a same period last year compare on POGO revenues as well as other connectivity programs that were discontinued over that time. So we should still see some drag maybe until about Q3.
Q:Can you provide color on the take-up levels for the new capacities at VITRO? Have you signed anchor tenants for this?
A:We’ve actually landed a big hyperscale customer of ours that’s already availing of 4 megawatts of capacity. There are ongoing discussions with Western and Chinese hyperscalers as well.
Q:Where do you see the profit momentum for Maya trending for the balance of the year?
A:We should continue to see an increase in the margins and profitability as we continue to scale the business. I don’t think you should expect a hockey stick growth, but a more steady and gradual margin improvement over time.
Q:What are your thoughts on the mobile business trends into the second quarter?
A:We see that the market has softened, but we continue to grow traffic year-on-year, which gives us confidence in monetizing demand for the balance year.
Q:What is the rate of water usage for VITRO Santa Rosa? Will the local utility be able to supply the water required as it ramps up?
A:The water utilization level is still at normal levels, and we expect it to increase once we start onboarding AI-specific workloads.
Q:Can you share interest income on loans as well as your cost of funds, also average loan tenor?
A:We’ll be limited in terms of exact disclosure of the numbers to some extent.
Q:Do you have a target loan-to-deposit ratio?
A:We don’t have a specific target loan-to-deposit ratio, but we will continue to keep a slightly conservative loan-to-deposit ratio.
Q:Do you anticipate subscriber growth to continue at this pace for the rest of 2025?
A:Yes, we do anticipate the growth to sustain.
Q:How sustainable are the churn trends at current levels?
A:Our churn has been showing improvement over time.
Q:How is your 5G monetization strategy progressing?
A:Our focus is still on 5G and building a meaningful and dense 5G coverage.
Q:Can we expect depreciation and financing costs to continue increasing at similar levels?
A:It’s going to be almost on the current level.
Q:How is the Asia Direct Cable expected to enhance your competitive advantage?
A:It is a big part of our competitive advantage.
Q:Is there guidance for 2025 net income?
A:Given the softness of the numbers in the first quarter, I think we’re unable to provide guidance at this point.
Q:What specific strategies and timelines are in place to improve working capital efficiency?
A:Our main focus now is asset monetization.
Q:Are you seeing an intensification of competition in the mobile business?
A:The softness I’ve answered, but we don’t see the same trend.
Q:Can you comment on the potential enterprise revenue uplift once VITRO Santa Rosa is fully operational?
A:We have an anchor tenant that’s already come in that’s taking on 4 megawatts of space.
Q:Is there further room to significantly reduce OpEx?
A:We are nearing optimal levels at this point.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided providing specific details on interest income on loans, cost of funds, and average loan tenor, stating they would be limited in terms of exact disclosure. Additionally, they did not provide guidance for 2025 net income due to the softness of the numbers in the first quarter.
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