Masco Corporation (MAS) Q3 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Overview

The earnings call presents a mixed outlook. While there are positive elements such as strong e-commerce growth and effective cost-saving initiatives, challenges like tariff impacts, inventory timing issues, and soft sales in certain markets persist. The company's strategic plans for capital allocation and tariff mitigation are promising, but uncertainties remain. Overall, the sentiment is balanced, leading to a neutral prediction for the stock price movement.

Key Financial Performance

Net Sales Decreased 3% in local currency, and excluding the Kichler divestiture, sales decreased 2%. The decrease was attributed to the divestiture of Kichler and unfavorable market conditions.

Operating Profit $312 million, with an operating profit margin of 16.3%. The profit was impacted by lower volume and higher costs, including tariffs, commodities, and inventory-related reserves, partially offset by pricing actions and cost savings initiatives.

Earnings Per Share (EPS) $0.97 for the quarter. The EPS was influenced by the same factors affecting operating profit.

Plumbing Sales Increased 1% in local currency. North American plumbing sales increased 1%, driven by favorable pricing. International plumbing sales were flat, with growth in European markets offset by challenges in China. Operating profit for the segment was $204 million, with an operating margin of 16.4%, impacted by higher costs such as tariffs and commodities.

Decorative Architectural Sales Decreased 12% in the quarter or 6% excluding the divestiture of Kichler. Operating profit for the segment was $128 million, and operating margin increased 100 basis points to 19.1%. The decrease in sales was driven by lower volume in the paint and builders hardware businesses, with DIY paint sales decreasing mid-single digits due to soft demand and low home turnover.

Free Cash Flow Strong free cash flow was generated during the quarter, enabling $188 million to be returned to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases.

Gross Margin 34.6% in the quarter, impacted by higher tariffs and commodity costs.

SG&A Expenses Decreased $16 million, primarily due to the divestiture of Kichler. SG&A as a percentage of sales improved by 20 basis points to 18.4%.

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Operating Highlights

Newport Brass brand relaunch: Showcased the brand's timeless design and enduring quality, expanding the luxury portfolio with an addressable market of $1.8 billion.

Water filtration category: Delta's new product introductions, including a tankless reverse osmosis water filtration system, outperformed expectations and won the Good Housekeeping 2026 Kitchen Award.

Behr Premium Plus Ecomix: Launched a plant-based interior paint, demonstrating commitment to innovative and sustainable products.

E-commerce and trade channels: Delta Faucet showed growth in these channels, contributing to North American plumbing sales increase of 1%.

Luxury faucets and showering: Gained market share in this key growth area.

PRO Paint market: Sales increased low single digits, continuing a trend of multiyear growth.

Cost savings initiatives: Implemented to offset higher costs such as tariffs, commodities, and inventory-related reserves.

Capital allocation: Returned $188 million to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases in the quarter.

Strategic investments: Focused on capabilities that differentiate the company, aiming for long-term growth.

Mitigation actions: Addressed macroeconomic uncertainty and rising costs through pricing actions and sourcing changes.

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Risk or Challenges

Geopolitical and Macroeconomic Environment: The company is navigating a dynamic geopolitical and macroeconomic environment, which poses challenges to near-term market conditions and impacts business performance.

Tariffs and Rising Costs: Higher tariffs, including a temporary 145% tariff on China imports, and increased costs for commodities and inventory-related reserves are significantly impacting operating profit and margins.

China Market Challenges: The international plumbing segment is facing increasing challenges in the China market, which is affecting overall performance.

DIY Paint Market Softness: Demand for DIY paint remains soft across the industry, driven by low existing home turnover, impacting sales in the Decorative Architectural segment.

Supply Chain and Tariff-Related Dynamics: Working capital is being impacted by tariff-related dynamics, including higher material costs and pricing, which increase working capital balances.

Industry Softness and Volume Decline: The company anticipates a decrease in sales for 2025 due to continued industry softness and lower volumes, particularly in the Decorative Architectural segment.

Volatile Market Environment: The market environment remains volatile, with ongoing tariff uncertainty and potential future tariff changes posing risks to cost structures and profitability.

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Guidance & Outlook

Adjusted Earnings Per Share (EPS) for 2025: The company anticipates adjusted EPS for 2025 to be in the range of $3.90 to $3.95 per share, revised from the previous expectation of $3.90 to $4.10. This adjustment reflects third-quarter results, higher tariffs, and expectations for softer industry demand due to ongoing macroeconomic and geopolitical uncertainty.

Repair and Remodel Market Outlook: The U.S. and international repair and remodel markets are expected to decrease low single digits in 2025. Structural factors such as aging housing stock, longer homeownership durations, and high home equity levels are expected to support mid- to long-term growth.

Sales Projections for 2025: Masco's overall sales for 2025 are expected to decrease low single digits, impacted by the 2024 divestiture of Kichler (reducing sales by approximately 2%) and lower volumes, partially offset by pricing. Excluding divestiture and currency impacts, sales are projected to decline low single digits.

Plumbing Segment Outlook: Full-year sales for the Plumbing segment are expected to increase low single digits in 2025. However, the full-year operating margin is anticipated to be approximately 18%, revised from the previous guidance of 18.5%.

Decorative Architectural Segment Outlook: Sales for the Decorative Architectural segment are expected to decrease low double digits in 2025, or mid-single digits excluding the impact of the Kichler divestiture. The full-year operating margin is projected to be approximately 18%.

Tariff Impact and Mitigation: The total annualized cost impact of tariffs enacted in 2025 is estimated at $270 million before mitigation, up from $210 million in the second quarter. The in-year impact for 2025 is expected to be approximately $150 million. Mitigation efforts, including cost reductions, sourcing changes, and pricing adjustments, are expected to mostly offset these costs.

Capital Allocation for 2025: The company plans to deploy approximately $500 million towards share repurchases or acquisitions in 2025, an increase from the previous expectation of at least $450 million. This increase is driven by a cash tax benefit from recent tax legislation.

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Shareholder Return Plan

Dividends: Masco Corporation returned $188 million to shareholders in the third quarter through dividends and share repurchases.

Share Repurchases: Masco Corporation repurchased $124 million in stock during the third quarter. The company expects to deploy approximately $500 million towards share repurchases or acquisitions in 2025, which is an increase from the previous expectation of at least $450 million. This increase is driven by a cash tax benefit from recently enacted tax legislation.

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Key Q&A

Q:How might a competitor's price increase on January 1 influence your outlook for pricing in the new year, particularly in relation to your relationship with Home Depot?

A:The company has a unique 40+ year relationship with Home Depot, which is based on price-cost neutrality over time. While there is some upward pressure on paint input costs, it is not significant. The company does not expect significant pricing changes on paint in the coming year.

Q:What is the longer-term impact of tariffs on Plumbing margins, and how do you plan to mitigate these impacts?

A:The annualized impact of tariffs is about $270 million. The company is mitigating this through sourcing changes, cost reductions, supplier negotiations, and pricing actions. While a large part of the tariffs has been mitigated this year, the company aims to further mitigate and restore margins by 2026.

Q:Were there any surprises in the 3Q results for Plumbing margins, and what were the main drivers?

A:The 3Q results were impacted by tariffs, industry softness, elevated copper costs, and higher-than-typical inventory-related reserves. Incremental tariffs added $10 million to the in-year impact, which will mostly affect Q4. The elevated 145% China tariffs caused a $15 million impact in Q3.

Q:What caused the unfavorable inventory timing in the builders' hardware business, and will it impact the full year?

A:The unfavorable inventory timing was due to a planned shipping process change in the quarter. The company does not expect this to significantly impact the full year.

Q:What factors drove the Plumbing margins in Q3, and how does this align with full-year sales guidance?

A:Plumbing margins in Q3 were impacted by elevated China tariffs, inventory-related reserves, and softer sales in certain markets like China. Full-year sales guidance remains down low single digits, with the company performing in line or better than the overall industry despite industry softness.

Q:What is the impact of potential tariff reductions on China imports, and can you break down the other tariff exposures?

A:A 10% reduction in China tariffs could reduce the $140 million impact to $90-$95 million annually. The other $130 million in tariff exposure includes reciprocal tariffs, Section 232 tariffs on steel, aluminum, and copper, and glass antidumping duties. The company will continue to provide updates as the situation evolves.

Q:What is driving the expected margin step-down in DIY Paint for Q4?

A:The margin step-down in Q4 is primarily due to an unfavorable comparison to the favorable channel inventory build in Q4 of the previous year.

Q:How did the Plumbing segment perform in terms of pricing and channel dynamics, and what is the outlook for Q4?

A:Plumbing pricing played out as expected, with a 3% favorable impact in Q3. Pricing is gaining traction, and the company expects continued favorable impacts in Q4. Retail performance was relatively flat, while e-commerce and wholesale channels showed strong growth.

Q:What are the cost-saving initiatives being implemented, and what is their expected impact?

A:The company is leveraging its operating system to drive productivity and efficiency through plant operations, supply chain efficiencies, procurement cost savings, automation, and austerity measures like headcount and discretionary spend reductions. These initiatives are expected to improve operational efficiencies across all segments.

Q:What is the inflation rate for Plumbing input costs, and what is the outlook for the year?

A:Plumbing input costs, particularly copper, experienced low single-digit inflation in Q3, and a similar low single-digit inflation rate is expected for the full year.

Q:What is the outlook for the DIY Paint business, and what factors influence its performance?

A:DIY Paint correlates heavily with existing home sales, which are currently at three-decade lows. The company expects long-term improvement as home sales increase. The PRO business, which is nearly 50% of Behr's sales, presents a significant growth opportunity.

Q:What is driving the strength in Delta's e-commerce and wholesale channels, and what is the outlook for retail?

A:Delta's strength is driven by brand building, innovation, and strong e-commerce capabilities. Retail performance was relatively flat, but the company expects stronger results in retail in 2026 due to planned distribution and innovation initiatives.

Q:What are the company's plans for capital allocation, and how does it view the M&A environment?

A:The company increased its cash return outlook to $500 million for the year, with $150 million remaining for Q4. It continues to focus on bolt-on M&A opportunities but will use excess cash for share repurchases if no opportunities arise.

Q:What is the company's strategy for mitigating tariff impacts, and when does it expect full mitigation?

A:The company is aggressively pursuing tariff mitigation through sourcing changes, cost reductions, and pricing actions. It aims to fully mitigate the dollar and margin impacts of tariffs over time and will provide further updates in February 2026.

Q:What is the outlook for the Plumbing segment, and what factors could drive improvement?

A:The company expects gradual improvement in the Plumbing segment as interest rates decrease and consumer confidence increases. Long-term fundamentals, such as high home equity levels and aging housing stock, remain positive.

Q:How are the company's premium and luxury brands performing, and what is the outlook for the wellness category?

A:Premium and luxury brands like Brizo and Hansgrohe are performing well, particularly in upper-income segments. The wellness category, including hot tubs and saunas, has significant growth potential due to low household penetration and increasing consumer interest.

Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses

A:Management avoided providing specific details on the breakdown of the 'other bucket' of tariff exposures, the exact dollar impact of inventory-related reserves, and the specifics of future pricing actions in the Plumbing segment. Additionally, they did not provide a detailed timeline for full tariff mitigation or specific channel pricing performance.

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