Gerdau S.A. (GGB) Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call summary indicates positive financial performance with an EBITDA margin increase and positive cash flow. The shareholder return plan, including a share buyback, is favorable. Despite some concerns in the Q&A about unclear management responses, optimism about the cost reduction initiatives, import tariffs, and infrastructure impact is evident. The strategic CapEx and new initiatives in Mexico also contribute positively. While natural disasters and inflationary pressures pose risks, the overall sentiment is optimistic, suggesting a positive stock price movement in the short term.
Key Financial Performance
EBITDA BRL 2,624 million, down 1.6 percentage points from Q1 2024; reduction driven by lower sales prices in North America and non-recurring impacts from hibernations in Brazil.
Free Cash Flow BRL 89 million positive in Q2 2024; despite significant cash outflows, the company maintained a positive cash flow.
Gross Debt BRL 12,500 million; increase due to BRL 1,500 million debenture issuance and BRL 839 million from exchange rate variation.
Leverage Level 0.53 times; reflects a healthy leverage position.
CapEx BRL 1,420 million, with 50% allocated for growth and competitiveness projects; 47% of the BRL 11,900 million strategic CapEx for 2021-2026 cycle already invested.
Dividend BRL 0.12 per share at Gerdau SA and BRL 0.08 per share at Metalurgica Gerdau; new share buyback program approved for up to BRL 1,300 million at Gerdau and BRL 350 million at Metalurgica Gerdau.
Working Capital Allocation BRL 259 million allocated in Q2 2024; increase in working capital by BRL 800 million due to exchange rate variation.
Cost Reduction Initiatives Expected to lower cost and expense base by approximately BRL 1.5 billion by start of 2025; BRL 150 million saved in H1 2024.
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Operating Highlights
New Product Certification: Gerdau completed the certification of all steel produced from the new continuous casting process at the Pindamonhangaba plant, allowing for higher added value products.
Market Expansion in North America: The North American market remains resilient, with stable local demand for steel and a backlog of around 50 days, positively impacted by government measures like the Inflation Reduction Act.
Market Outlook in South America: In Argentina, steel demand is expected to recover slowly, while Uruguay shows positive consumption levels. Peru's GDP growth is driven by construction investments.
Cost Reduction Initiatives: Gerdau expects to lower its cost and expense base by approximately BRL 1.5 billion by the start of 2025, with BRL 150 million saved in the first half of 2024.
CapEx Investments: In Q2, Gerdau invested BRL 1,420 million in CapEx, with 50% allocated for growth and competitiveness projects.
Share Buyback Program: Gerdau's Board approved a share buyback program for up to 68 million preferred shares and approximately 1.8 million common shares, representing an investment of approximately BRL 1,300 million.
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Risk or Challenges
Economic Factors: General economic and market conditions may impact the company's future results, with actual performance potentially differing from the outlook presented.
Regulatory Issues: The company is closely monitoring uncertainties linked to the upcoming presidential elections in the U.S. and the dynamics of the economy, including inflation and interest rates.
Supply Chain Challenges: The Brazilian steel market is facing challenges due to a strong inflow of imported steel, which has not yet been mitigated by trade remedies.
Production Capacity Adjustments: The company has incurred one-off costs related to the hibernation of some industrial units in Brazil, impacting EBITDA.
Market Demand Uncertainty: The automotive market in the U.S. is recovering, but there are uncertainties regarding access to credit lines, high interest rates, and the excessive entry of imported vehicles.
Natural Disasters: Heavy rains in Rio Grande do Sul have caused logistical restrictions and temporary shutdowns of production units, affecting shipments.
Inflationary Pressures: In Argentina, the local steel market is suffering due to inflationary pressures and economic measures, leading to a significant decline in steel demand.
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Guidance & Outlook
Cost Reduction Initiatives: Gerdau is implementing cost reduction initiatives aimed at optimizing the cost base, expecting a reduction of approximately BRL 1.5 billion by the start of 2025.
CapEx Investments: In Q2 2024, Gerdau allocated BRL 1,420 million in CapEx, with 50% earmarked for growth and competitiveness projects.
Share Buyback Program: Gerdau's Board approved a share buyback program for up to 68 million preferred shares and approximately 1.8 million common shares, representing an investment of approximately BRL 1,300 million.
Sustainability Certification: Gerdau became the first steel company in North America to be certified as a B Corporation, enhancing its commitment to sustainability.
EBITDA Expectations: Excluding one-off costs, Gerdau's EBITDA for Q2 2024 would have been BRL 665 million, indicating a 12% increase from Q1 2024.
Future Steel Demand: The U.S. automotive market is projected to recover, with production expected to exceed 16 million units in 2024.
Brazilian Steel Market Outlook: The Brazilian market is expected to see an 8.5% increase in new housing launches in 2024, with a GDP increase of 1.7% in the construction industry.
Debt and Liquidity Position: Gerdau ended Q2 2024 with gross debt of BRL 12,500 million and a liquidity position of BRL 11,500 million.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Dividend per share at Gerdau SA: BRL 0.12
Dividend per share at Metalurgica Gerdau: BRL 0.08
Share buyback program at Gerdau: Up to 68 million preferred shares and approximately 1,800,000 common shares, representing an investment of approximately BRL 1,300 million.
Share buyback program at Metalurgica Gerdau: Up to 33 million preferred shares, representing an investment of approximately BRL 350 million.
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Key Q&A
Q:What is the potential of the Brazil cost in dollar terms?
A:Approximately between 20% to 25% of the Brazil operation is linked to the U.S. dollar, with revenues also tied to foreign currency.
Q:Is the guidance of BRL 1 billion in actual base, and should we consider IPCA in this math?
A:Expense costs are correlated to the IPCA index, while variable costs depend on market dynamics.
Q:Should we expect an acceleration in CapEx in the second half to reach the BRL 6 billion guidance?
A:Typically, CapEx is stronger in the second half due to maintenance downtime and critical equipment interventions.
Q:What is the outlook for North America BD given the performance of HRC and rebar?
A:Despite concerns, the outlook is optimistic with a solid backlog and spreads, expecting improvements in results.
Q:What is the impact of import tariffs on Brazil BD?
A:The tariffs have just been implemented, and while it's too soon to tell, there is optimism about their positive impact.
Q:How much of the cost reduction is incremental EBITDA?
A:The reduction in costs will lead to a good increment in EBITDA, but other factors like price policy also play a role.
Q:What is the expected impact of the government measures on the steel industry?
A:There is optimism for adjustments and further measures to support the steel industry.
Q:What is the intention behind the share buyback program?
A:The board approved the program with the intention to execute it over the next 12 months.
Q:What is the expected impact of the infrastructure package on demand for longs in the US?
A:The infrastructure package is moving slowly, but its impact is expected to materialize in the coming quarters.
Q:What is the potential for increasing exports given the current exchange rate?
A:There is potential to export 100,000 to 200,000 more tons due to the favorable exchange rate.
Q:What is the expected EBITDA from strategic CapEx?
A:The mining expansion project is expected to generate around BRL 400 million of incremental EBITDA.
Q:What are the plans for expanding the rolling mill?
A:The focus is on the Ouro Branco mill, which will be crucial for future growth.
Q:What is the impact of hibernation on export volumes?
A:Hibernation has impacted export volumes, but additional exports will come from the Ouro Branco mill.
Q:Will there be a shift in CapEx allocation between Brazil and the US?
A:CapEx will be balanced between Brazil and the US, focusing on where there is better potential for return.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided giving a direct answer regarding the specific impact of import tariffs on pricing and the timeline for seeing results from the tariffs. Additionally, there was a lack of clarity on the exact incremental EBITDA from cost reductions, as it was mentioned to be influenced by various factors.
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