Ford Motor Company (F) Q3 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Overview

The earnings call summary shows mixed signals: strong financial metrics with improved warranty costs and Ford Credit EBT, but weak guidance due to Novelis and chip issues. The Q&A further highlights production and political risks, and management's vague responses on key issues add uncertainty. Positive elements like strong Ford Blue pricing and strategic mix optimization are counterbalanced by potential Q4 EBIT impacts. Overall, the combination of positive and negative factors suggests a neutral stock price movement over the next two weeks.

Key Financial Performance

Revenue Ford+ plan delivered a record $50.5 billion in revenue, a 9% year-over-year growth. This growth was driven by a strong product lineup and diversified revenue streams across regions, segments, and software and physical services.

Adjusted EBIT $2.6 billion, flat year-over-year despite absorbing a net tariff headwind of $700 million. The flat performance was due to volume growth and cost improvements offset by tariff impacts.

Adjusted Free Cash Flow $4.3 billion in the third quarter, with $5.7 billion year-to-date. This reflects strong operational performance and disciplined capital allocation.

Ford Pro Revenue and EBIT Revenue was $17.4 billion (11% growth year-over-year) and EBIT was $2 billion with a robust double-digit margin. Growth was driven by volume, warranty and material cost improvements, partially offset by tariff impacts and pricing normalization in Europe and North America.

Ford Model e EBIT Year-to-date loss of $3.6 billion, with $3 billion attributed to first-generation products and the balance to investment in next-generation vehicles. Losses increased due to lower net pricing and increased spending on next-gen vehicles.

Ford Blue EBIT $1.5 billion, with revenue growth exceeding wholesale unit growth. Higher costs were driven by tariffs and adverse exchange rates, which muted progress in warranty improvements.

Ford Credit EBT Over $600 million, up 16% year-over-year, reflecting improved financing margin. A $350 million distribution was also made.

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Operating Highlights

Universal EV platform: Sourcing is 95% complete, testing vehicles underway, and production equipment installation in Louisville will begin later this year. Production of LFP cells at Marshall, Michigan plant is also on track for later this year.

Hybrid vehicles: Prioritizing hybrids across the lineup, including extended range hybrid options. Ford leads the hybrid truck market with about 70% share.

New product introductions in Europe: Ford Model e delivered revenue and volume growth driven by new product launches in Europe.

U.S. market share: Ford's total U.S. share grew to 12.8%, driven by key products like F-150, Bronco, Explore, and Expedition. The all-new Expedition gained over 3 points of segment share.

Ford Pro's competitive advantage: Ford Pro's specialized dealer network added 1,700 service bays and 500 mobile service vans, making it the largest mobile fleet in the U.S.

Cost improvements: Achieved a net $1 billion improvement this year, excluding tariffs, through lower material costs, freight and duty efficiency, and reduced warranty expenses.

AI deployment: Systemically deploying AI across the industrial system, including 900 AI-powered cameras in plants to detect quality issues and improve efficiency.

Quality improvements: Ford was the most awarded brand in J.D. Power 2025 U.S. initial quality study. Improved launch quality and implemented a new powertrain testing regimen up to 7x longer than before.

Tariff policy developments: Recent tariff policies are favorable to Ford, offsetting tariffs on imported auto parts and leveling the playing field for medium and heavy-duty trucks.

EV market strategy: Adjusting product mix due to evolving U.S. EV adoption trends, focusing on affordable EVs starting at $30,000 and hybrids.

Cost efficiency and partnerships: Focusing on innovation, hyper cost efficiency, and smart partnerships to close cost gaps and achieve world-class quality.

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Risk or Challenges

Novelis Fire Impact: The fire at the Novelis plant in Oswego, New York, disrupted aluminum supply, leading to production challenges and financial impacts. Ford anticipates a $1.5 billion to $2 billion EBIT headwind in Q4 2025 and a $2 billion to $3 billion free cash flow headwind. Recovery efforts are underway, but the disruption has caused short-term operational and financial strain.

Tariff Policy Changes: Recent tariff policies have created a $1 billion net headwind for 2025, impacting material costs and pricing. While some relief is expected, tariffs remain a significant cost burden, particularly for imported auto parts and materials.

EV Market Challenges: The EV market faces overcapacity and lower returns, with U.S. EV adoption projected at only 5% in the near term. Ford's first-generation EVs are incurring significant losses, and scaling fixed costs remains a challenge. Adjustments to product strategy and cost reductions are necessary to improve profitability.

Quality and Warranty Costs: Improving quality is critical to reducing warranty expenses and recall costs. While progress has been made, older models with existing issues continue to impact financial performance. Long-term reliability improvements are still in progress.

Currency Exchange Headwinds: Adverse exchange rates, particularly a weaker U.S. dollar against the euro and Thai baht, have negatively impacted financial performance, creating additional cost pressures.

Supply Chain Modernization: Efforts to modernize facilities and IT systems, including the use of AI, are ongoing. However, these initiatives require significant investment and may face implementation challenges, impacting short-term operational efficiency.

Economic and Market Conditions: Softness in government sales and pricing normalization in Europe and North America have created revenue pressures. Additionally, the evolving global emissions landscape and compliance requirements add complexity to strategic planning.

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Guidance & Outlook

Full Year 2025 EBIT Guidance: Ford is on track to raise its full-year 2025 EBIT guidance, excluding the impact of the Novelis fire. Updated adjusted EBIT guidance for 2025 is between $6 billion to $6.5 billion.

Adjusted Free Cash Flow for 2025: Ford expects adjusted free cash flow of between $2 billion and $3 billion for 2025, with a headwind of $2 billion to $3 billion in the fourth quarter due to Novelis-related production disruptions.

2025 U.S. Industry SAAR and Pricing: Ford assumes a U.S. industry SAAR of about 16.8 million units and U.S. industry pricing of about 0.5% for 2025.

Capital Expenditures for 2025: Ford expects capital expenditures of about $9 billion for 2025.

2026 Novelis Recovery: Ford has line of sight to recover at least $1 billion related to Novelis in 2026.

2026 Cost Improvements: Ford plans to deliver another $1 billion of cost improvements across its industrial system in 2026.

2026 Compliance and Emissions: Ford expects the evolving global emissions landscape to eliminate 2026 compliance headwinds, optimizing the mix of ICE, hybrids, and EVs while reducing reliance on credits.

UAV Platform Launch: Ford is investing in its UAV platform, with spending to increase as it ramps up the Marshall LFP battery plant and changes over the Louisville assembly plant ahead of the 2027 launch.

EV Adoption and Universal EV Platform: Ford projects near-term EV adoption to be about 5% of the U.S. market, with growth expected for affordable EVs. The universal EV platform is on track, with production of LFP cells at the Marshall, Michigan plant starting later this year.

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Shareholder Return Plan

Fourth Quarter Regular Dividend: Ford announced the declaration of its fourth quarter regular dividend of $0.15 per share, payable on December 1 to shareholders of record on November 7.

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Key Q&A

Q:Why does Ford only expect to recover about $1 billion of the impact from Novelis, and is the plant expected to be operational by the end of the year?

A:Ford expects the Novelis hot mill to be operational in late November or early December, with a quick ramp-up through December. They anticipate losing 90,000 to 100,000 units in Q4 but plan to recover roughly 50,000 units in 2026 by adding a third shift at the Dearborn truck plant and increasing line speed at the Kentucky Truck plant.

Q:What is Ford's view on potential disruption from the Nexperia chip impact?

A:Ford sees the Nexperia chip issue as a political matter and is working with U.S. and Chinese administrations to resolve it. The issue involves mature node semi-components like diodes and transistors. Ford is maximizing its buy of these components and believes a quick resolution is necessary to avoid Q4 production losses for the industry.

Q:What is the status of Ford's warranty expenses and efforts to reduce them?

A:Ford's warranty expenses have improved year-over-year, with Q3 costs down by $450 million. The company expects total warranty costs, including FSAs, to decrease next year due to improved initial quality and cheaper repairs like software and OTA updates.

Q:How does Ford view industry competitive dynamics and pricing discipline with increased capacity?

A:Ford expects industry pricing to remain strong, with full-size pickup segments showing strength. They are optimistic due to the freshness of their lineup, including new models like the F-150 and Super Duty, and their hybrid offerings.

Q:What is the financial impact of new emissions rules on Ford?

A:The new emissions rules could minimize the cost of credits Ford would need to buy and allow monetization through mix optimization. Ford has reduced purchase obligations by 40% this year, and the new rules are expected to further reduce costs.

Q:How is Ford managing the Novelis impact on retail sales and customer experience?

A:Ford believes its 88-day supply of F-Series vehicles is sufficient to insulate against the Novelis impact in Q4. They are confident in managing the situation to meet customer demand.

Q:What opportunities does Ford Credit see in offering subvented financing to subprime customers?

A:Ford Credit ran a successful no-tier upgrade marketing program in September to generate news for the F-150. While subprime remains a small part of their portfolio (3%), they are open to exploring creative financing strategies to help sell more products.

Q:How does Ford plan to optimize powertrain and segment mix next year?

A:Ford plans to optimize mix by focusing on high-demand vehicles like off-road derivatives (e.g., Tremor, Raptor) and hybrids. They aim to match production to customer demand while leveraging regulatory changes to remove compliance constraints.

Q:What are the drivers behind Ford Blue's improved pricing and fleet performance?

A:Ford Blue's pricing improved due to strong retail pricing (up 1.7 points) and robust performance in Super Duty and full-size pickups. Fleet pricing has been down in the van business, but Ford Pro's diversification into small and medium businesses has offset risks.

Q:What is Ford's approach to managing EV losses and investments?

A:Ford plans to provide an update on EV losses and investments after Q4. They are focusing on the future EV market, designing cost-effective platforms for affordable commuter vehicles, and adapting to market and regulatory changes.

Q:How does Ford view the mix optimization opportunity with lower compliance hurdles?

A:Ford sees an opportunity to increase production of high-demand, compliance-negative vehicles like Raptor and Tremor. They also plan to adjust hybrid pricing to maximize results, leveraging the removal of compliance headwinds to improve profitability.

Q:What is the guidance for Ford's Q4 and 2026 performance?

A:Ford expects Q4 EBIT to be impacted by the Novelis fire ($1.5 billion to $2 billion) but offset by a $1 billion tariff receivable. For 2026, they anticipate tailwinds from Novelis recovery, EPA compliance changes, and cost savings, balanced by investments in launches and the cycle plan.

Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses

A:Management avoided providing specific details on the potential resolution timeline for the Nexperia chip issue, stating only that it is a political matter and a quick breakthrough is necessary. Additionally, they did not offer clarity on how EV losses will evolve next year, deferring the discussion to the Q4 update.

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The earnings call summary shows a mixed outlook: strong financial metrics and positive developments in manufacturing, product launches, and market share. However, the suspension of full-year guidance and challenges from tariffs present uncertainties. The Q&A section reveals cautious optimism but highlights potential risks, such as tariff impacts and competitive pressures in certain segments. Overall, the sentiment is balanced, with positive aspects offset by significant uncertainties, resulting in a neutral stock price prediction.

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