Canadian Apartment Properties Real Estate Investment Trust (CAR.UN:CA) Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call summary reveals mixed sentiments: positive growth expectations in new verticals and material handling, but uncertainties in financial health and expenses due to increased operational costs and unclear management responses. The lack of specific guidance and potential increased expenses contribute to a neutral market sentiment, as investors may remain cautious. The absence of a market cap also limits the ability to predict stronger reactions.
Key Financial Performance
Disposition of noncore assets in Canada Sold more than $400 million of noncore assets in Canada. This was part of a portfolio repositioning strategy to recycle capital into stronger performing properties.
Disposition of ancillary interest in Europe Sold $784 million of ancillary interest in Europe. This simplified the business and reduced exposure to European markets.
Acquisition of properties Purchased $659 million in well-built, strategically aligned properties. These properties offer low capital investment requirements and high cash returns above the portfolio average.
NCIB program Spent $294 million on the NCIB program to enhance earnings for unitholders. This represents a weighted average purchase price of $41, a substantial discount to the NAV per unit of $56 as of December 31, 2025.
Same-property occupancy Remained healthy at 97.3% as of December 31, 2025. This reflects effective leasing and retention strategies.
Average rent Grew by 3.8% year-over-year to $1,718 per month. This reflects the effectiveness of leasing and retention strategies.
Same-property NOI margin Expanded to 64.7% for 2025, up by 50 basis points from 2024. This was driven by cost management and procurement governance enhancements.
Total debt to gross book value ratio On target at 39.3%, reflecting a commitment to maintaining balance sheet strength.
Blended rent uplift on turnover Achieved a 4.2% increase in blended rent uplift on turnover. However, leases turned negative for residents who had been in their suites for less than 2 years (-6.3%), while those in their homes for 2 years or longer saw a 16% rent growth.
Same-property operating revenues Grew by 2.8% in Q4 2025 to $224.4 million. This was driven by operational strategies amid softer rental market conditions.
Same-property operating expenses Decreased by 1% year-over-year in Q4 2025. This was due to lower repairs and maintenance and a focus on cost reduction and procurement practices.
Diluted FFO per unit (Q4 2025) Increased by 1.6% to $0.632. This was due to lower interest costs and the accretive impact of the NCIB program.
Diluted FFO per unit (Fiscal 2025) Increased by 0.3% to $2.541 compared to 2024. This was partially offset by net disposition activity and elevated vacancy in Europe.
Capital expenditure as a percentage of NOI Reduced to 37% in 2025, down from the prior 10-year average of 46%. This was achieved through portfolio repositioning and strategic cost management.
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Operating Highlights
Portfolio Repositioning: Sold $400 million of noncore assets in Canada and $784 million of ancillary interest in Europe. Used proceeds to purchase $659 million in strategically aligned properties.
New Acquisitions: Acquired 15 well-built properties in key urban markets in Canada for $659 million, enhancing cash flow and reducing long-term capital needs.
Market Conditions: Resilient performance amid softer rental market conditions due to paused population growth and new supply. Occupancy remained at 97.3% with average rent at $1,718 per month.
European Market Exit: Reduced European portfolio to 2% of consolidated holdings, simplifying business operations.
Operational Efficiency: Same-property NOI margin expanded to 64.7% in 2025 due to cost management and procurement governance.
Retention Strategies: Focused on personalized resident retention initiatives, maintaining occupancy at 97.3%.
Capital Recycling Strategy: Recycled capital from low-performing to high-performing properties, maintaining flexibility for opportunistic dispositions.
NCIB Program: Invested $294 million in buybacks at a discount to NAV, enhancing unitholder returns.
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Risk or Challenges
Market Conditions: Softer rental market conditions due to a finite wave of new supply and paused population growth from changes to immigration targets, leading to operational pressures.
Lease Turnover Challenges: High turnover among residents with leases under 2 years, with negative rent growth of -6.3% for this group, creating a new tranche of leases with negative mark-to-market value.
Declining Market Rents: Market rents have declined through 2025, extending the period of impact from leases with negative mark-to-market value.
European Operations: Elevated vacancy rates in Europe due to the wind down of ERES, impacting financial performance.
Economic Uncertainty: Heightened cost pressures earlier in the year, though partially mitigated by cost reduction efforts.
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Guidance & Outlook
Market Conditions and Rent Trends: The broader housing market is experiencing a temporary pause in population growth due to changes in immigration targets, combined with a finite wave of new supply. This has created softer rental market conditions. However, housing starts are down significantly across Canada, and population growth is projected to stabilize at sustainable levels, supporting a return to a more constructive supply-demand imbalance.
Lease Turnover and Rent Growth: Turnover among residents who have been in their suites for less than 2 years is generating negative rent growth (-6.3%), while longer-term residents (2+ years) are generating stronger rent growth (+16%). Approximately 27% of residents have been in their suites for under 2 years, and many of these leases carry negative mark-to-market. This dynamic is expected to continue until market conditions improve. However, 73% of leases are with residents who have been in their homes for at least 2 years, providing a stable base for rent growth.
Financial Projections and Cash Flow: The company aims to further strengthen cash flow performance by continuing its portfolio repositioning program, which recycles capital from low to high cash-yielding properties. Capital expenditure as a percentage of NOI has been reduced to 37% in 2025, down from the prior 10-year average of 46%. This trend is expected to continue as a key objective moving forward.
Portfolio Strategy: The company plans to maintain flexibility in its capital recycling strategy by selling opportunistic assets (11% of the portfolio) if compelling pricing is achieved. The portfolio mix includes 19% recently constructed properties to reduce average age and capital requirements, and 68% core long-term holdings to drive stable performance. This strategy is designed to create a resilient platform through various market cycles.
Liquidity and Financial Flexibility: The company has ample liquidity with $188 million in cash and credit facility capacity, an additional $200 million in unused accordion options, and $1.4 billion of Canadian investment properties uncovered by mortgages. This financial flexibility will allow the company to deploy capital into high-return opportunities as they arise.
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Shareholder Return Plan
NCIB program: In 2025, $294 million was invested in the NCIB program at a weighted average purchase price of $41, representing a discount to the NAV per unit of $56 as of December 31, 2025. Since 2022, a total of $960 million has been spent on this program to enhance unitholder returns.
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Key Q&A
Q:What is the mark-to-market percentage for leases under 2 years and above 2 years?
A:Leases under 2 years are at negative 8%, while leases above 2 years are at plus 20%.
Q:How long will it take to turn through the leases with above-market rents?
A:It will take approximately 2.5 to 3 years to turn through these leases, assuming everything else remains the same.
Q:What is the outlook for operating expense (OpEx) growth in 2026?
A:OpEx growth is expected to be above inflation, with factors like carbon tax reduction and colder winter weather impacting the forecast. The colder winter has a bigger effect, with incremental costs of $200,000 to $300,000 due to snow hauling.
Q:What is the renewal rate experience expected for Ontario and other markets?
A:Ontario renewals are solid, with expectations of greater than 2% renewals overall. Western markets fully at market will have a different renewal experience.
Q:What is the revenue growth objective for this year?
A:The revenue growth objective is 2% to 3%, but confidence in this direction depends on the spring market.
Q:When does the spring leasing season typically show an uptick in leads and traffic?
A:Ontario typically sees a 60-day notice period, Quebec has more lead time, and other markets have a 30-day notice period. The spring leasing season's impact will become clearer as notices are given.
Q:What is the current state of market rent growth?
A:Market rent growth has decelerated due to temporary residents leaving and new supply in key markets like Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal. However, the broader outlook remains positive due to a lack of housing starts.
Q:How has the mark-to-market percentage for leases under 2 years trended, and has it peaked?
A:The mark-to-market percentage for leases under 2 years is at negative 8%. It is uncertain if it has peaked, as it depends on tenant behavior and the spring leasing season.
Q:What is the impact of the colder winter and carbon tax on operating costs?
A:The colder winter has a bigger impact than the carbon tax, with incremental costs of $200,000 to $300,000 due to snow hauling. The overall OpEx growth is expected to be above inflation.
Q:What is the timing for the disposition of the 11% of the portfolio in the opportunistic disposition bucket?
A:There is no rush for disposition, and it will be opportunistic. The focus is on replacing assets with newer construction or legacy assets with better CapEx profiles.
Q:How has leasing demand been to start the year?
A:Leasing demand has been impacted by colder weather, leading to a slower season. However, the portfolio is well-positioned for when the weather improves.
Q:What is the current state of the acquisition opportunity set?
A:Fewer deals are coming to market, with cap rates holding strong. The focus is on finding value in portfolios with low CapEx features.
Q:Would CAPREIT take on lease-up risk for better pricing on long-term assets?
A:Yes, CAPREIT is open to taking on lease-up risk for attractive long-term assets, but such opportunities are currently limited.
Q:What is the geographic capital allocation strategy for acquisitions?
A:The focus remains on major Canadian rental markets like Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal, with an emphasis on affordability and stability.
Q:Is CAPREIT open to partnerships for acquisitions?
A:Yes, CAPREIT is open to joint ventures and creative solutions for acquisitions.
Q:What is the outlook for operating expenses (OpEx) initiatives?
A:There are ongoing opportunities to reduce OpEx through technology and energy efficiency initiatives, with expectations of exceeding inflation-adjusted growth.
Q:What is the timing of peak deliveries in Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver?
A:The timing varies by market, but the impact is more pronounced in areas with high supply and population decline. CAPREIT's suburban portfolio is less affected.
Q:How does the suburban portfolio compare to the downtown core portfolio in the GTA?
A:The suburban portfolio is holding up better due to affordability and desirability, while the downtown core portfolio has been more affected by COVID impacts.
Q:What is the current level of incentives as a percentage of revenue, and what is the outlook?
A:Incentives are at 1.3% of revenue and are expected to taper off in the spring leasing season, targeting closer to 1% for the remainder of the year.
Q:What is the strategy for using incentives versus reducing base rent?
A:The focus is on using incentives rather than reducing base rent, with a disciplined approach based on local competition.
Q:What is the trend in turnover rates and its impact on the portfolio?
A:Turnover rates have increased to 20%, partly due to the new construction portfolio. This allows for better access to market rents when the market improves.
Q:What is the impact of roommating and household consolidation on the rental market?
A:Roommating and household consolidation are prevalent in markets like Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal, potentially leading to pent-up demand for rental units.
Q:What is the outlook for general and administrative (G&A) expenses in 2026?
A:G&A expenses are expected to remain flat at approximately 4.8% of revenues, with opportunities for further reductions through technology and efficiency.
Q:What is the progress on procurement initiatives?
A:Procurement initiatives are ongoing, with a focus on leveraging technology to access broader markets and achieve cost savings.
Q:How does the current situation in Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver compare to Calgary and Edmonton in 2016-2017?
A:The current situation is driven by affordability and supply issues rather than economic downturns and population loss, as seen in Calgary and Edmonton.
Q:What is the impact of the newer construction portfolio on incentives and turnover?
A:The newer construction portfolio has higher turnover and uses more incentives, but it provides strong cash flow and better access to market rents.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided giving direct answers or lacked clarity on several questions, including:
1. The exact timing of when the mark-to-market percentage for leases under 2 years will peak.
2. The specific timing of peak deliveries in Toronto, Montreal, and Vancouver.
3. The exact impact of roommating and household consolidation on the rental market.
4. Detailed data on the turnover slide from a year ago.
5. The precise quarterly run rate for G&A expenses in 2026.
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