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The earnings call highlights a mixed outlook. While the Power Generation market and data center demand show strength, challenges like declining truck volumes, tariff impacts, and losses in the Accelera segment introduce uncertainties. The company's efforts in cost management and strategic investments are positive, but the lack of clear guidance on tariffs and Accelera losses tempers optimism. Thus, the overall sentiment is neutral, reflecting a balance between positive growth areas and ongoing challenges.
Sales $8.3 billion, a decrease of 2% compared to the third quarter of 2024. Lower sales were primarily driven by weaker North America heavy and medium-duty truck demand with unit volumes declining 40% from a year ago, which was largely offset by continued strength in our global power generation markets, higher light-duty truck volumes and favorable pricing.
EBITDA $1.2 billion or 14.3% compared to $1.4 billion or 16.4% a year ago. Third quarter 2025 results included $240 million of noncash charges related to our electrolyzer business within the Accelera segment, reflecting lower demand expectations due to reduced U.S. government incentives and slower market development internationally. Excluding those charges, EBITDA was $1.4 billion or 17.2% of sales, an increase of 80 basis points from a year ago as the benefits of higher power generation and light-duty truck volume, pricing, operational efficiencies and lower compensation expenses more than offset declines in North American truck volumes and the unfavorable impact from tariffs.
North America Revenues Decreased 4% compared to 2024. Industry production of heavy-duty trucks in the third quarter was 46,000 units, down 34% from 2024 levels. While our heavy-duty unit sales were 16,000, down 38% from a year ago. Industry production of medium-duty trucks was 20,000 units in the third quarter of 2025, a decrease of 51%, while our unit sales were 17,000, down 55% from 2024. Revenues for North America power generation equipment increased 27%, driven by continued strength in data center demand.
International Revenues Increased by 2% in the third quarter of 2025 compared to a year ago. Third quarter revenues in China, including joint ventures, were $1.7 billion, up 16% from a very weak quarter last year as stronger unit demand was partially offset by unfavorable product mix and weaker part sales. Industry demand for medium- and heavy-duty trucks in China was 311,000 units, an increase of 50% from last year. Our sales and units, including joint ventures, were 41,000, an increase of 35%. The increase in the China market size was primarily due to higher-than-expected domestic demand driven by NS4 scrapping incentives. Sales of power generation equipment in China increased 26% in the third quarter due to accelerating data center demand. Third quarter revenues in India, including joint venture, were $713 million, an increase of 3% from a year ago as stronger demand across markets was partially offset by depreciation of the rupee against the dollar. Power Generation revenues increased 41% in the third quarter, driven by strong data center demand.
Operating Cash Flow $1.3 billion compared to $640 million a year ago, reflecting significant improvement in credit metrics since the Meritor acquisition.
Engine Segment Revenue $2.6 billion, a decrease of 11% from a year ago. EBITDA was 10%, a decrease from 14.7% as weaker North American and heavy-duty truck volumes, the costs and additional overhead of investing and deploying new engine platforms ahead of the 2027 emissions regulations, some weaker aftermarket sales were partially offset by higher volumes and pricing related to the launch of updated products in light-duty markets and overall disciplined cost management.
Components Segment Revenue $2.3 billion, a decrease of 15% from a year ago. EBITDA was 12.5% compared to 12.9% of sales a year ago as weaker on-highway demand in North America was partially offset by operational efficiencies, tight cost management and lower product coverage costs.
Distribution Segment Revenue $3.2 billion, an increase of 7% from a year ago. EBITDA was 15.5% compared to 12.5% of sales a year ago, driven by higher power generation demand and higher aftermarket earnings.
Power Systems Segment Revenue $2 billion, an increase of 18% from a year ago. EBITDA dollars were also a record at $457 million, increasing as a percent of sales from 19.4% to 22.9%, driven by strong volume, particularly in data center applications, positive pricing and effective capacity expansions in a cost-effective way.
Accelera Segment Revenue $121 million, an increase of 10% as increased e-mobility sales partially offset lower electrolyzer installations. EBITDA loss, excluding noncash charges, of $96 million compared to an EBITDA loss of $115 million a year ago, reflecting a lower cost base resulting from the actions that we took in the fourth quarter of 2024.
Hybrid powertrains for mining equipment: Collaboration with Komatsu to develop hybrid powertrains for surface haulage heavy mining equipment, aimed at decarbonization and cost reduction.
15-liter X15N natural gas engine: Showcased heavy-duty performance and cost/emissions benefits during the Run on Less event.
X15 diesel engine: Led in fuel economy and operational efficiency, reinforcing its high-performance benchmark.
North America heavy and medium-duty truck market: Sales decreased 4% YoY, with heavy-duty truck unit volumes down 38% and medium-duty down 55%.
China market: Revenues increased 16% YoY due to higher domestic demand and NS4 scrapping incentives, with medium- and heavy-duty truck demand up 50%.
India market: Revenues increased 3% YoY, driven by domestic demand recovery and pre-buy activity ahead of potential tax changes.
Power generation equipment: Revenues increased 27% in North America and 26% in China, driven by strong data center demand.
Operational efficiencies: Improved EBITDA margin to 17.2% (excluding charges), supported by pricing, cost control, and lower compensation expenses.
Electrolyzer business review: Undergoing strategic review due to reduced U.S. government incentives and slower international market development.
Tariff cost recovery: Increased recovery through pricing and mitigation actions, though total tariff costs rose.
North America heavy and medium-duty truck demand: Significant decline in demand, with unit volumes down 40% year-over-year, negatively impacting sales and EBITDA.
Tariff costs: Increased tariff costs negatively impacted profitability, despite mitigation efforts through pricing and other actions.
Electrolyzer business demand: Lower demand expectations due to reduced U.S. government incentives and slower international market development, leading to noncash charges and a strategic review of the business.
Geopolitical tensions: Potential risks to semiconductor supply and rare earth minerals, which could disrupt the supply chain and broader industry production.
Regulatory and trade policy uncertainty: Uncertainty around trade and regulatory policies, including the 2027 EPA regulations, impacting strategic planning and market recovery.
Economic slowdown in North America: Protracted slowdown in the North American on-highway truck markets, with further declines expected in Q4.
Currency depreciation in India: Depreciation of the rupee against the dollar partially offset stronger demand in India, impacting revenues.
Tax legislation changes: Recent U.S. tax legislation changes increased tax expenses, negatively impacting net earnings.
North America on-highway truck markets: Near-term weakness is expected to persist at least through the end of this year. Unit shipments are anticipated to decline approximately 15% from third quarter levels, with most reductions in light- and heavy-duty trucks. Q4 on-highway engine production could mark the bottom of this cycle, but recovery pace depends on broader economic sentiment and trade/regulatory policy clarity.
Power generation equipment demand: Strong demand is expected to continue beyond this year, driven by data center demand.
Electrolyzer business: A strategic review is underway due to significantly lower demand outlook caused by reduced U.S. government incentives and slower international market development. Further charges may occur as the company responds to weak demand.
Global trade and policy landscapes: Ongoing challenges are anticipated, including tariff impacts and geopolitical risks to semiconductor and rare earth mineral supplies. The company is monitoring and mitigating risks.
2026 guidance: The company plans to reinstate guidance in February 2026, contingent on clarity regarding trade and regulatory policies.
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The earnings call highlights a mixed outlook. While the Power Generation market and data center demand show strength, challenges like declining truck volumes, tariff impacts, and losses in the Accelera segment introduce uncertainties. The company's efforts in cost management and strategic investments are positive, but the lack of clear guidance on tariffs and Accelera losses tempers optimism. Thus, the overall sentiment is neutral, reflecting a balance between positive growth areas and ongoing challenges.
The earnings call summary reveals mixed signals. While there are strong margins and investment in new capacity, significant uncertainties exist, particularly regarding tariffs and economic outlook, which could negatively impact demand. The company's inability to provide guidance due to economic uncertainty and tariffs further adds to the neutral sentiment. The Q&A section highlights some positive aspects, like sustainable margins and strong demand in certain sectors, but also points out risks such as regulatory uncertainty and potential margin declines. Overall, the sentiment is balanced with no clear positive or negative tilt.
The earnings call revealed mixed financial performance with decreased revenue and EBITDA, despite a rise in EPS and gross margin. Market demand is strong in some areas but weak in North America, with economic uncertainties affecting orders. No share repurchase or dividend plans were announced, and management was vague about tariff impacts. The Q&A highlighted concerns about tariffs and economic uncertainty. Although there are positive developments in Power Systems, the overall sentiment is negative due to weak guidance and market challenges, likely leading to a stock price decline.
The earnings call presents several concerns: a decline in revenue and EBITDA, economic uncertainty, and lack of clear guidance on tariffs' impact. Although there are positive developments in certain segments, the absence of a shareholder return plan and weak revenue guidance overshadow these. The Q&A section highlights management's reluctance to provide detailed answers, adding to uncertainty. Consequently, the sentiment leans negative, likely leading to a stock price decline between -2% to -8% over the next two weeks.
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