Bally's Corporation (BALY) Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call presents mixed signals: while revenue growth and a strong North America Interactive segment are positives, concerns include competition in key markets, financial losses, and unclear management responses. The absence of a share repurchase program and reduced CapEx also add to uncertainty. Despite some positive developments, the challenges and risks highlighted during the Q&A suggest a cautious market reaction, leading to a neutral sentiment prediction.
Key Financial Performance
Total Revenue $622 million, up 3% year-over-year, driven by growth in Casino & Resorts (3%) and North America Interactive (95%).
Casino & Resorts Revenue $343.1 million, up 3% year-over-year, despite headwinds in Rhode Island and Atlantic City.
Adjusted EBITDAR (Casino & Resorts) Approximately $100 million, down 10% year-over-year, primarily due to market-specific issues in Rhode Island and Atlantic City.
International Interactive Revenue $229 million, down 7% year-over-year, primarily due to softness in non-UK operations.
UK Revenue (International Interactive) Increased 9% year-over-year in U.S. dollars, and 8% on a constant currency basis.
Adjusted EBITDAR (International Interactive) $81 million, down 4% year-over-year, despite strong UK profitability.
North America Interactive Revenue $49.2 million, up 95% year-over-year, benefiting from iGaming in Rhode Island and strong online sports betting results.
Adjusted EBITDAR (North America Interactive) Loss of approximately $7 million, with expectations of narrowing losses as the year progresses.
Cash on Balance Sheet $155 million at the end of the quarter.
Net Debt $3.58 billion.
Shares Outstanding Approximately 40 million shares, with an additional 13 million shares from incremental warrants, options, and other dilution.
CapEx Spend Reduced to approximately $115 million for the year, down from an initial estimate of $165 million.
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Operating Highlights
North America Interactive Revenue Growth: Revenue from North America Interactive segment grew a substantial 95% year-over-year, reaching $49.2 million.
Online Sports Betting Launch: The soft launch of online sports betting in the UK is expected to provide additional channels for customer acquisition and growth.
Chicago Casino Development: Bally’s entered into a $940 million strategic construction and financing arrangement to complete the construction of its flagship permanent casino in Chicago.
Merger Agreement: Bally’s entered into a definitive merger agreement with The Queen Casino & Entertainment Inc., expanding its platform and diversifying its market presence.
Las Vegas Development: Demolition of the Tropicana is underway, with plans for a new stadium for MLB’s Athletics, enhancing Bally's positioning in Las Vegas.
New York Licensing Process: The licensing submission process for New York is expected in June 2025, with Bally’s planning to develop a world-class integrated resort.
Adjusted EBITDAR Margin Improvement: Adjusted EBITDAR margins improved approximately 130 basis points year-over-year despite a revenue decline in the International Interactive segment.
Operational Efficiencies in North America Interactive: The transition to Kambi and White Hat platforms has led to improved volumes and profitability in North America Interactive.
Chicago Casino Strategy: Bally’s is committed to a single-phase development plan for the Chicago Casino, with a budget of approximately $1.3 billion.
Focus on Core Profitability: Bally’s is maintaining focus on core profitability and growth from its Casino & Resorts and International Interactive segments.
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Risk or Challenges
Regulatory Issues: The licensing submission process for New York is expected to occur in June 2025, with the winner announced in early 2026, which may delay potential revenue generation.
Supply Chain Challenges: The Providence Bridge disruption on Interstate 195 is impacting traffic to Rhode Island properties, which could affect customer visitation and revenue.
Competitive Pressures: In Atlantic City, elevated promotional activity from Massachusetts operators is impacting Bally's business, indicating increased competition in the region.
Economic Factors: There are signs of spending decline among lower-end consumers, which could affect overall revenue and profitability.
International Market Challenges: In Asia, ongoing issues are impacting business volumes, and while stabilization is expected, challenges are likely to persist in the near term.
Financial Performance Risks: The company expects to incur an adjusted EBITDA loss of better than $30 million in 2024, with losses decreasing in a non-linear fashion.
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Guidance & Outlook
Merger Agreement: Bally's entered into a definitive merger agreement with The Queen Casino & Entertainment Inc., which will expand its platform and databases, diversifying its market presence.
Chicago Casino Development: Bally's secured a $940 million strategic construction and financing arrangement with Gaming & Leisure Properties for the construction of its permanent casino in Chicago.
Las Vegas Development: Demolition of the Tropicana is underway, with plans for a new stadium for MLB's Athletics, and ongoing evaluation of development options for the remaining land.
New York Development: Bally's is preparing for a world-class integrated resort adjacent to Bally’s Links at Ferry Point, with licensing submission expected in June 2025.
North America Interactive Expansion: Bally's plans to launch sports betting in an additional 4 states in the second half of the year, enhancing its iGaming operations.
2024 Revenue Guidance: Bally's expects 2024 revenues to range from $2.5 billion to $2.7 billion, with a likelihood of achieving the lower end of this range.
Adjusted EBITDAR Guidance: The company projects adjusted EBITDAR for 2024 to be between $655 million and $695 million.
CapEx Guidance: Bally's is reducing its CapEx spend to approximately $115 million for the year, down from an initial estimate of $165 million.
North America Interactive Losses: Bally's expects to incur an adjusted EBITDA loss of better than $30 million in 2024, with losses decreasing in a non-linear fashion.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Share Repurchase Program: None
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Key Q&A
Q:Does a new kind of post-deal structure change anything operationally or strategically for you guys, for instance, are there any synergies that we should be thinking about to clean assets? And are there any kind of assets that you would deem non-core to the strategy at this stage?
A:No, I don’t think there’s anything that’s non-core within our strategy. In terms of the merger agreement, I think it’s a little bit early to speak on synergies.
Q:Just wanted to see how you’re thinking about developing the Nittany Mall property following the Pennsylvania Supreme Court's decision.
A:We’re now focused on going through the process and obtaining the appropriate approvals with the BGT. Timing of construction probably won’t be until the first half of 2025.
Q:Can you quantify the total sum of impact that you saw across Rhode Island, Massachusetts and Atlantic City?
A:In Rhode Island, probably looking at somewhere in the 12% to 15% impact. Atlantic City is going through a little bit of property reinvention.
Q:Can you add a bit more color to what you’re seeing currently in Japan? Is this mostly a function of the government cracking down on your payments?
A:The devaluation in the yen has impacted demand. The model still works, but we’re investing in growth.
Q:Can you provide an update on the North American Interactive business regarding costs and customer acquisition?
A:We’re currently still running both the White Hat PAM and the proprietary Bally’s PAM in North America. We just launched in Maryland and have more launches coming.
Q:Can you provide color on the CapEx reduction? Was this more maintenance CapEx or smaller projects?
A:It was a combination of both, mostly small expansion projects that we reevaluated.
Q:What are the revenue EBITDA run rates for Chicago profitability right now?
A:We’re not really here at this point in time.
Q:How much in terms of EBITDAR did the Rhode Island Bridge closure cause the company this quarter?
A:We calculate about $2 million on a quarterly basis right now.
Q:What are your expectations for the approval process for the new design in Chicago?
A:We will open by September 2026, but the near-term spending may move a little bit to the right.
Q:Of the about $170 million of restricted cash, how much is actually down at the Chicago subsidiary?
A:There was $58 million of that that got released.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management did not provide a direct answer regarding the revenue EBITDA run rates for Chicago profitability, stating, 'We’re not really here at this point in time.' Additionally, there was a lack of clarity on the specifics of the merger synergies, as management mentioned it was too early to comment.
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