Earnings call transcript: Dixie Group’s Q4 2024 results show revenue dip
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Overview
The earnings call presents a negative outlook due to declining sales, increased net losses, and reduced gross profit margins. Although cost-cutting measures and inventory reductions are positive, the company's refusal to provide clear guidance on tariff impacts and inventory projections signals uncertainty. The new credit facility's minimum EBITDA thresholds pose additional risks, and the workforce reduction reflects ongoing struggles. The lack of a market cap suggests potential volatility, but overall, the financial and strategic challenges outweigh the positives, likely leading to a stock price decline in the short term.
Key Financial Performance
Net Sales (Q4 2024) $64,400,000, down 3.4% from $66,700,000 in Q4 2023 due to high interest rates and low consumer confidence delaying discretionary spending.
Net Loss (Q4 2024) $7,198,000, compared to a net loss of $3,160,000 in Q4 2023, which included an $8,198,000 gain on the sale of assets.
Net Sales (FY 2024) $265,000,000, down 4.1% from $276,000,000 in FY 2023, attributed to reduced consumer spending.
Net Loss from Continuing Operations (FY 2024) $12,210,020.24 or 83¢ per diluted share, compared to a net loss of $1,952,000 or 13¢ per diluted share in FY 2023.
Net Loss (FY 2024) $13,000,000 or 88¢ per diluted share, compared to a net loss of $2,718,000 or $0.18 per diluted share in FY 2023.
Gross Profit Margin (FY 2024) 24.7% of net sales, down from 26.7% in FY 2023, impacted by high utility expenses and inventory write-downs.
Selling and Administrative Expenses (FY 2024) Reduced by $4,300,000 or 5.8% of net sales from FY 2023 due to planned cost-cutting initiatives.
Interest Expense (FY 2024) $6,400,000, down from $7,200,000 in FY 2023, primarily due to lower interest rates.
Year-End Receivables (FY 2024) $23,300,000, down 1.5% from the prior year end balance.
Net Inventory Balance (FY 2024) $66,900,000, down $9,300,000 or 12.3% from FY 2023, achieved through planned inventory reduction.
Accounts Payable and Accrued Expenses (FY 2024) Slightly down 1.9% from the prior year, driven by lower inventory-related costs.
Net Property, Plant, and Equipment (FY 2024) Increased by $2,400,000 from the prior year end, offset by depreciation.
Debt (FY 2024) Relatively flat, down $200,000 from the prior year.
New Credit Facility Closed on a $75,000,000 senior credit facility, with borrowing availability of approximately $12,200,000.
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Operating Highlights
New Product Offerings: Expanded hard surface business with TrueCore brand, adding new offerings in wood, stone, and tile visuals.
Product Innovation: Launched Step Into Color campaign to promote custom color options for customers.
High-End Product Expansion: Introduced wider variety of decorative products through 1866 by Madeline and decor by Fabrica.
DuraSilk Expansion: Continued expansion of DuraSilk solution dye polyester offerings.
Market Share Growth: Gained market share despite overall industry decline, particularly in high-end segments.
Digital Marketing Initiatives: Increased lead generation and sample order activity through enhanced digital marketing efforts.
Retail Growth: Strong growth from retail stores with premier flooring center program.
Cost Reduction Initiatives: Reduced costs by over $10,000,000 in 2024 and planned further reductions for 2025.
Inventory Management: Reduced inventory by $16,000,000 over the last two years, with a $9,300,000 reduction in 2024.
Facility Consolidation: Consolidated East Coast manufacturing, resulting in lower facility expenses.
Credit Facility: Closed on a new $75,000,000 senior credit facility to strengthen financial position.
Restructuring Plan: Implemented restructuring plan to align capacity and costs with current volume, reducing workforce by 28%.
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Risk or Challenges
Net Sales Decline: Net sales decreased by 4.1% in fiscal year 2024 compared to 2023, attributed to high interest rates and low consumer confidence affecting discretionary spending.
Net Loss: The company reported a net loss of $13,000,000 for 2024, significantly higher than the previous year's loss of $2,700,000, indicating worsening financial performance.
Inventory Challenges: A planned inventory reduction led to underabsorbed fixed costs in manufacturing, with a total inventory reduction of $9,800,000 in Q4 2024.
Utility Expenses: Significant utility expenses in California operations negatively impacted gross margins, which fell from 26.7% to 24.7% of net sales.
Tariff Uncertainty: The implementation of tariffs on imports has created uncertainty regarding costs, particularly affecting the hard surface business, which relies on imported products.
Market Conditions: Existing home sales have declined dramatically, impacting the industry, with sales at the lowest point since 1995, contributing to a recession in the industry.
Cost Reduction Initiatives: The company has implemented cost reduction plans totaling over $10,000,000 for 2025, in response to ongoing economic challenges.
Labor Reduction: The company has reduced its workforce by approximately 28% over the last three years due to declining business.
Credit Facility Risks: The new credit facility has minimum EBITDA thresholds that may pose challenges given the current financial performance.
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Guidance & Outlook
Cost Reduction Initiatives: In 2023, the company reduced costs by over $35 million due to restructuring, and in 2024, an additional $10 million in cost reductions is planned.
Inventory Management: The company successfully reduced inventories by $16 million over the last two years, with a $9.3 million reduction in 2024.
New Credit Facility: The company closed on a new $75 million senior credit facility, enhancing its financial position.
Product Development: Continued investment in product offerings, including the TrueCore brand and DuraSilk solution dye polyester, to diversify the product portfolio.
Digital Marketing Initiatives: Expanded digital marketing efforts have resulted in increased lead generation and improved online product visualization.
Revenue Expectations: Sales in 2025 are expected to follow a similar pattern as 2024, with soft surface sales up and hard surface sales down.
Cost Management: The company has implemented a cost reduction plan for 2025 exceeding $10 million.
Gross Profit Margin Outlook: Gross profit margin in 2024 was 24.7%, down from 26.7% in 2023, with expectations of improvement as costs are managed.
Future Capex: Capital expenditures are maintained at low levels, primarily for extrusion equipment to ensure consistent supply.
Market Conditions: The company anticipates continued challenges in the market, with existing home sales remaining low.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Shareholder Return Plan: The company has implemented a cost reduction plan for 2025, targeting over $10,000,000 in savings. Additionally, they have successfully reduced inventories by $16,000,000 over the last two years, which is part of their strategy to manage working capital effectively.
Credit Facility: Dixie Group Inc closed on a new $75,000,000 senior credit facility, with borrowing availability of approximately $12,200,000.
Cost Reduction Initiatives: In 2024, the company reduced costs by over $10,000,000 and plans to continue this trend in 2025.
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Key Q&A
Q:What percent of the hard surfaces product is imported from China? What other countries do you import from, and how quickly could you pivot to other countries outside of China?
A:At this point, very little is imported from China, and that would be practically none very soon. We do import from Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, and some from Europe.
Q:As of today, the hard surfaces side of the business would face the 10% tariff. Is that correct?
A:That is correct. Other than China, yes.
Q:How quickly can you pass along price on that side of the business? Is there a little bit of a period where you have to absorb the higher costs?
A:That’s still up in the air, Mike. Several companies have announced price increases, but that was based on the first initial increases in tariffs.
Q:Are your competitors more reliant on China for imports?
A:I would say everybody worked diligently to take China, and I think today is a fraction of what it was a couple years.
Q:What was the amount of the 4Q inventory write down?
A:In the fourth quarter, the overall reduction in inventory was $9,800,000.
Q:How soon will you be at the run rate of taking $10,000,000 out of the cost structure?
A:I would say we’re very close to that level today.
Q:What needs to happen to revenue to achieve the $9,000,000 EBITDA threshold?
A:We feel comfortable with the amount that was calculated even in an expectation of a generally flat year.
Q:How much more can you take out of the inventory?
A:We don’t make projections.
Q:Is there any potential benefit from the tariffs on the soft side of the business?
A:It depends on where the tariffs end up.
Q:Is the $12,200,000 available to borrow?
A:That includes the $6,000,000. So the $12,000,000 is the full availability.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided giving a direct answer regarding how quickly they can pass along price increases due to tariffs, stating it is still 'up in the air.' Additionally, they did not provide a projection on how much more inventory could be reduced, simply stating, 'We don’t make projections.'
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