BW LPG Limited (BWLP) Q4 2024 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call summary presents a mixed picture. The financial performance is stable with healthy liquidity and moderate trade finance utilization, but the strategy of using ships as stock issuance and paying dividends in excess of earnings raises concerns. The Q&A reveals uncertainties regarding tariffs and debt strategy, with management providing vague responses. While there are positive aspects like successful trading activities and a share buyback program, the lack of clear guidance and potential tariff impacts create caution. Overall, the sentiment is neutral, reflecting balanced positives and negatives.
Key Financial Performance
TC income per available day $37,900 (lower than previous quarter, above guidance of $36,000) - Fluctuations in spot market rates.
Dividend per share $0.42 (total dividend for the year $2.42 per share, 123% payout ratio) - 75% payout from shipping activities, additional from product services.
Net profit after tax $40 million (includes $17 million from BWLPG India, $3 million from product services) - Reflects overall performance.
Profit attributable to equity holders $31 million (earning per share of $0.22) - Strong performance in product services and shipping.
Net leverage ratio 33% (increase from 12% in Q3) - Driven by additional borrowings for financing the advanced gas fleet.
Borrowings Increased by $628 million - Includes drawdowns from revolving credit facilities, shareholder bridge loan, and transfer of Chinese leasing.
Shareholder equity $1.9 billion - Reflects overall financial health.
Operating cash breakeven $19,800 for own fleet, $22,200 for whole fleet, $25,600 all-in cash breakeven - Driven by dry dock program and increased interest costs.
Liquidity position $603 million (includes $232 million in cash and $371 million in unjoined revolving facilities) - Healthy liquidity post-delivery of advanced gasoline.
Trade finance utilization $168 million (21% of available credit line) - Moderate level providing room for future trading needs.
Gross profit from product services $50 million (includes realized profit of $59 million) - Successful trading activities.
Average value at risk $7 million - Reflects a well-balanced trading book.
Annualized return on equity 9% - Indicates effective use of equity.
Annualized return on capital employed 7% - Reflects capital efficiency.
Operating expenses (OpEx) $8,300 per day (marginal reduction from last quarter) - Cost management efforts.
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Operating Highlights
New Product Services Profit: Achieved a gross profit of $50 million, including a realized profit of $59 million from successful trading activities.
Fleet Expansion: Acquired 12 VLGCs from Avance Gas, increasing the fleet to 52 vessels, with 22 equipped with LPG dual fuel propulsion technology.
New Vessel Purchases: Purchased BW Kizoku for $69.8 million and exercised purchase option for BW Yushi at around $70 million.
Market Outlook: Positive VLGC market fundamentals anticipated with U.S. export terminal expansion expected to increase VLGC exports to mid-60 million tons by 2026.
Export Capacity Growth: Projected 45% increase in LPG export capacity by 2028 in North America and the Middle East.
Fleet Utilization: Achieved 96% fleet utilization in Q4 2024.
Time Charter Coverage: 31% of fleet exposure covered by time charters at $44,800 per day.
Dividend Declaration: Declared a dividend of $0.42 per share, representing a 123% payout ratio of total shipping impact.
Refinancing Plans: Plans to refinance facilities to achieve more efficient leverage without increasing current leverage ratio.
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Risk or Challenges
Market Volatility: The spot market rates fluctuated significantly, with current rates hovering around mid $20,000 per day, indicating potential volatility in earnings.
Regulatory and Geopolitical Risks: The company is closely monitoring geopolitical and regulatory developments that could impact operations and market conditions.
Supply Chain Challenges: The Panama Canal's limited capacity is a concern, as it affects the availability of slots for VLGCs, which could impact shipping schedules and costs.
Dry-Docking Program: An accelerated dry-docking program for the VLGC fleet is scheduled, with about 80 ships to be docked in 2025, which could disrupt operations and increase costs.
Economic Factors: The anticipated increase in U.S. LPG exports and terminal expansions may positively influence the market, but reliance on these factors introduces uncertainty.
Financial Leverage: The company's net leverage ratio increased to 33% due to additional borrowings, raising concerns about financial stability and future borrowing costs.
Operating Costs: The estimated operating cash breakeven for the fleet is projected to rise to $25,600, driven by increased dry-docking and interest costs.
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Guidance & Outlook
Dividend Declaration: The board declared a dividend of $0.42 per share, representing a 75% payout of shipping profits and an additional dividend from product services.
Fleet Expansion: Acquisition of 12 VLGCs from Avance Gas and additional purchases of BW Kizoku and BW Yushi, enhancing fleet to 52 vessels.
Time Charter Strategy: 31% of fleet exposure covered by time charters at $44,800 per day for 2025, aiming to mitigate spot market volatility.
Market Outlook: Positive VLGC market fundamentals anticipated with U.S. export terminal expansions expected to increase LPG exports significantly.
Dry-Docking Program: Accelerated dry-docking program with 80 out of 400 ships scheduled for docking in 2025.
Revenue Expectations: Estimated profit of $22 million from Time Charter out fleet and additional $137 million from fixed Time Charter portfolio for 2025.
Operating Cash Breakeven: Expected operating cash breakeven for own fleet at $19,800 and for the whole fleet at $22,200 in 2025.
All-in Cash Breakeven: Estimated all-in cash breakeven at $25,600 driven by dry dock program and increased interest costs.
Net Profit Guidance: Net profit after tax of $40 million in Q4, with a profit attributable to equity holders of $31 million.
Leverage Ratio: Net leverage ratio increased to 33% in Q4, driven by additional borrowings for fleet financing.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Declared Dividend: $0.42 per share, consisting of a 75% payout of shipping profits and an additional $0.28 from product services.
Total Dividend for 2024: $2.42 per share, representing a 123% payout ratio of total shipping impact.
Shareholder Return Strategy: The dividend showcases the function of product services to stabilize and enhance returns to shareholders when the shipping market softens.
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Key Q&A
Q:Could you explain your strategy of using ships as stock issuance for financing and your rationale for paying out more dividends than earnings?
A:We issued shares last year in connection with the Avance Gas transaction when the share price was close to our NAV. This was seen as accretive to shareholders. Regarding dividends, we are paying out from the product services result of 2024, and the construction of the dividend is 75% from shipping impact and topped up with product services dividends.
Q:What is your strategy regarding paying out dividends in excess of earnings? Is this a temporary measure?
A:This is a temporary measure as we are paying out dividends from the product services result of 2024. We are not really paying out more than we earn.
Q:How do potential tariffs from the U.S. against China impact trade between the U.S. and China regarding LPG?
A:It's hard to speculate as there are currently no tariffs on LPG. We are monitoring developments closely and will evaluate and take measures as necessary.
Q:Are you considering a share buyback given that shares are trading at a discount?
A:We activated our share buyback program last year and have a mandate to reactivate it when the time is right.
Q:What is your strategy for reducing the increased debt ratio? How will it affect dividend payouts?
A:We believe we are at a healthy leverage level slightly above 30%. Cash flow from operations will gradually pay down debt and also be returned to shareholders via dividends.
Q:Are you looking to pay out 100% of earnings over the long term or reduce leverage?
A:It depends on the situation. We have been able to return good dividends while also significantly paying down debt.
Q:What is your plan regarding Chinese-built vessels if tariffs are imposed?
A:It's hard to speculate. We will evaluate and take necessary measures if tariffs are imposed. We can employ our vessels outside the U.S. market if necessary.
Q:Can you comment on the profit from charter expenses?
A:This pertains to one of the vessels off hire, which is our higher income as booked.
Q:Do you expect asset prices to soften due to increased vessel supply?
A:We do not see signs of asset prices softening; they are holding up.
Q:What is the impact of charges on Chinese-built ships?
A:15% of the fleet is built in China. If charges are imposed, fewer vessels will be available for trade in the U.S.
Q:What motivates your team?
A:The share activity level and recent milestones have kept the team motivated.
Q:Will Avance Gas take a more active role in BW LPG?
A:Avance Gas has dividend out most of their shares, so they hold a tiny portion now. There are no plans for them to take a more active role.
Q:Can you provide information on upcoming CapEx in Q1 and FY '25?
A:CapEx primarily reflects dry docking programs, approximately $4,000 per day for 2025.
Q:What is the global perception problem with the shipping industry?
A:The main reason for low P/E ratios is the volatility in earnings. The industry is affected by geopolitical risks.
Q:Can you provide an update on the joint venture in India?
A:We are currently finalizing the last parts to start construction of the terminal and expect to provide a detailed update next quarter.
Q:What is the proposed date for dividend payment?
A:The payment date varies by market; for Oslo, it's around March 24th, and for New York, around March 19th.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided giving a direct answer regarding the potential impact of tariffs on Chinese-built vessels, stating it was hard to speculate and that they would evaluate measures if necessary. Additionally, there was a lack of clarity on the specific details of the CapEx projects and the exact nature of the profit from charter expenses.
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