Vector Group Ltd. (VGR) Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The company's earnings report shows improved profitability and operational performance, with increased net income and EBITDA. Market share gains for Liggett and Montego are encouraging. The Q&A section revealed confidence in overcoming regulatory challenges and maintaining stable market share. Despite a slight revenue decrease, strategic pricing and cost management have led to better margins. The repurchase of senior notes and dividend policy support financial health. Overall, these factors indicate a positive sentiment, and given the small-cap nature, the stock is likely to see a 2-8% increase.
Key Financial Performance
Revenue (Q4 2023) $360.4 million, down from $363.8 million in Q4 2022, reflecting a slight decline due to a 7.4% decrease in wholesaler shipments, partially offset by a 7.2% increase in pricing.
Net Income (Q4 2023) $58 million or $0.37 per diluted share, up from $48.2 million or $0.30 per diluted share in Q4 2022.
Adjusted EBITDA (Q4 2023) $96 million, up from $92.7 million in Q4 2022.
Adjusted Net Income (Q4 2023) $57.5 million or $0.36 per diluted share, up from $48.9 million or $0.31 per diluted share in Q4 2022.
Revenue (Full Year 2023) $1.42 billion, down from $1.44 billion in 2022, reflecting a 6.4% decrease in wholesale shipment volumes offset by a 6.8% increase in pricing.
Net Income (Full Year 2023) $183.5 million or $1.16 per diluted share, up from $158.7 million or $1.01 per diluted share in 2022.
Adjusted EBITDA (Full Year 2023) $363.2 million, up from $352.2 million in 2022.
Adjusted Net Income (Full Year 2023) $194.3 million or $1.23 per diluted share, up from $153.4 million or $0.97 per diluted share in 2022.
Liggett's Operating Income (Q4 2023) $98.1 million, up 5.6% from $93 million in Q4 2022.
Tobacco Adjusted EBITDA (Q4 2023) $99.6 million, up 5.4% from $94.5 million in Q4 2022.
Liggett's Operating Income (Full Year 2023) $346.7 million, down from $347 million in 2022, impacted by a one-time $18 million charge related to a settlement.
Tobacco Adjusted EBITDA (Full Year 2023) $370.6 million, up 5.5% from $351.1 million in 2022.
Gross Margin (Q4 2023) 33.8% of revenues, an increase of 190 basis points compared to Q4 2022.
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Operating Highlights
Montego Brand Performance: Montego became the largest discount brand in the U.S. and remains the country's fourth largest brand, with a national retail market share increase to 3.8% in Q4 2023.
Retail Market Share: Liggett's annual retail market share grew 30 basis points to 5.8%, the highest in over 50 years.
Distribution Expansion: Montego's distribution expanded to approximately 95,000 stores, up from 77,000 stores in the prior year.
Deep Discount Segment Growth: The deep discount category increased 8.1%, while industry volumes declined 8.5%.
Adjusted EBITDA Growth: Record adjusted EBITDA of $370.6 million, up 5.5% from the prior year.
Gross Margin Improvement: Fourth quarter gross margin increased to 33.8% of revenues, up 190 basis points year-over-year.
Long-term Strategy: Liggett's strategy focuses on optimizing profit through effective management of volume, pricing, and market share in its value-based brand portfolio.
Regulatory Outlook: Anticipation of a final menthol ruling from the FDA, with expectations of industry challenges against any prohibition.
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Risk or Challenges
Regulatory Risks: Anticipation of a final menthol ruling from the FDA, which may include a ban on menthol. The company expects any such ruling to be vigorously challenged by the industry.
Market Competition: Operating in an increasingly competitive environment, particularly in the discount segment of the tobacco market.
Supply Chain Challenges: Inconsistent nature of short-term wholesaler purchasing patterns, which affects retail and wholesale shipment volumes.
Economic Factors: The overall U.S. cigarette market is declining, with industry volumes down 8.5%, which may impact future revenues.
Pricing Pressure: Despite a 6.8% increase in pricing, it was offset by a 6.4% decrease in wholesale shipment volumes, indicating potential pricing pressures.
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Guidance & Outlook
Retail Market Share Growth: In 2023, Liggett's annual retail market share grew 30 basis points to 5.8%, the highest it's been in more than 50 years.
Montego Brand Performance: Montego became the largest discount brand in the U.S. and remains the country's fourth largest brand, with distribution expanding to approximately 95,000 stores.
Long-term Strategy: Liggett's strategy focuses on optimizing profit by managing volume, pricing, and market share in its value-based brand portfolio.
Deep Discount Segment Growth: The deep discount segment increased 8.1%, while industry volumes declined 8.5%, indicating a strong performance in this category.
2024 Market Share Expectations: Liggett expects retail market share to remain stable as they gradually increase the return on their Montego investment.
Regulatory Outlook: Anticipation of a final menthol ruling from the FDA, with expectations of industry challenges if a ban is implemented.
Dividend Policy: The company expects to continue its quarterly cash dividend policy.
Long-term Earnings Growth: Liggett's leadership in the discount segment positions it well for continued momentum and long-term earnings growth.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Quarterly Cash Dividend Policy: Vector Group has a long-standing practice of paying a quarterly cash dividend and expects this policy to continue.
Share Repurchase Program: None
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Key Q&A
Q:You expected market share to remain flat going forward as you focus on profits. Does this imply negative volumes for this year but potentially higher margin?
A:Yes, we are at a stage of prudently starting to realize a return on the Montego business. Our market share has stabilized, and we expect continued return on the Montego investment.
Q:Did you repurchase any of the 2026 bonds in the quarter?
A:Yes, we repurchased $15.1 million of our 10.5% senior notes due 2026. The balance of outstanding is about $519 million.
Q:What is the potential for the Montego brand in terms of profit as you move it to harvest mode?
A:I won't go into specifics of future earnings, but historically, we've seen significant earnings growth after building a base of business with previous brands.
Q:Can you provide insight on how the menthol ban might play out?
A:I doubt it will happen quickly. There may be attempts to ban it, but it will likely be a prolonged process with litigation involved.
Q:What is the current status of the capital stack and outlook for refinancing the 10.5% bonds?
A:We have $875 million of 5.75% senior secured bonds due in 2029 and $519 million of 10.5% senior notes due 2026. We will evaluate options over the next year.
Q:Are you seeing competitive pricing responses from peers in the current environment?
A:Yes, we are seeing premium brands discounting, but our focus remains on the deep discount segment.
Q:Was there anything onetime in the SG&A increase, or is it the run rate going forward?
A:The increase was primarily due to the timing of corporate expenses.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided giving a direct answer regarding the potential profitability of the Montego brand, using vague language about historical performance without providing specific data or projections.
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