Travel + Leisure Co. (TNL) Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call highlights strong financial performance, with increased EBITDA guidance and revenue growth in key segments. New brand initiatives and partnerships offer future growth potential. Shareholder returns are robust, and there is a focus on operational efficiency. Despite some risks like exchange headwinds and margin erosion, the overall sentiment is positive. The market cap suggests moderate sensitivity to these updates, leading to a likely stock price increase of 2% to 8% over the next two weeks.
Key Financial Performance
Revenue 2025 revenue was $4.02 billion, a 4% year-over-year increase. This growth was driven by strong sales and marketing execution, as well as sustained consumer demand.
EBITDA 2025 EBITDA was $990 million, a 7% year-over-year increase. This was attributed to revenue growth, EBITDA margin improvement, and disciplined capital allocation.
Free Cash Flow 2025 free cash flow was $516 million, a 16% year-over-year increase. This reflects operating leverage and efficient capital allocation.
Earnings Per Share (EPS) 2025 EPS was $6.34, a 10% year-over-year increase. This growth was driven by EBITDA growth, share repurchases, and disciplined capital allocation.
Vacation Ownership Gross VOI Sales 2025 gross vacation ownership sales grew by 8% year-over-year. This was driven by strong sales and marketing execution, as well as a 5% increase in tour flow in Q4.
Volume Per Guest (VPG) 2025 VPG was $3,359, a 6% year-over-year increase. This reflects consistent sales execution and disciplined yield management.
Travel and Membership EBITDA 2025 Travel and Membership segment EBITDA was $228 million. This segment faced exchange headwinds but demonstrated profitability and cash-generating strengths.
Shareholder Returns $449 million was returned to shareholders in 2025 through dividends and share repurchases. This reflects the company's commitment to disciplined capital allocation.
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Operating Highlights
New Resorts: Announced 4 new resorts across emerging brands, including Margaritaville and Accor, and began sales at Eddie Bauer Adventure Club and Sports Illustrated Resorts.
Digital Enhancements: Launched Club Wyndham and WorldMark apps and introduced a new AI concierge service to improve customer experience.
Brand Expansion Strategy: Focused on broadening the addressable market through a diversified brand portfolio, targeting distinct travel segments.
Resort Optimization: Removed lower-demand resorts and added higher-demand ones, resulting in a net growth of over 30 resorts in the last 3 years.
Vacation Ownership Sales: Achieved 8% growth in gross vacation ownership sales and a 6% increase in volume per guest (VPG).
Cost Management: Implemented tight cost controls to mitigate exchange headwinds, particularly in the Travel and Membership segment.
Capital Allocation: Returned $449 million to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases, and approved a new $750 million share repurchase authorization.
Resort Portfolio Management: Initiated a resort optimization initiative to replace lower-demand resorts with higher-demand ones, improving financial health and owner satisfaction.
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Risk or Challenges
Exchange Rate Headwinds: The Travel and Membership segment faced ongoing exchange rate headwinds, leading to a 6% year-over-year revenue decline and a 10% EBITDA decline in Q4 2025. This poses a challenge to profitability and requires targeted cost actions to align expenses with revenue.
Aging Resorts and Portfolio Optimization: A deliberate decision to close aging resorts with lower demand resulted in a $216 million non-cash inventory write-down and impairment in 2025. This action will reduce VOI sales by approximately $100 million and management fees by $20 million in 2026, creating a $50 million EBITDA drag before cost savings are factored in.
Travel and Membership Revenue Decline: The Travel and Membership segment experienced a revenue decline of 6% year-over-year in Q4 2025, reflecting challenges in maintaining growth in this segment.
Provision Rate and Loan Losses: The provision rate for loan losses was 20.7% for 2025, slightly better than guidance but still a significant factor impacting financial performance. Delinquencies and defaults remain within a tight range, but any adverse changes could pose risks.
Impact of Resort Closures on Revenue: The closure of certain resorts will lead to a $120 million revenue headwind in 2026, impacting VOI sales and management fees.
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Guidance & Outlook
Revenue Growth: For 2026, the company expects revenue growth driven by strong visibility into demand, tour flow, and execution. Gross VOI sales are projected to increase 1% to 5% year-over-year to a range of $2.5 billion to $2.6 billion. Absent the impact of sales office closures, underlying VOI growth would have been 5% to 9%.
EBITDA Projections: EBITDA is expected to be in the range of $1.03 billion to $1.055 billion, reflecting 4% to 7% year-over-year growth. The resort optimization initiative is expected to provide a net EBITDA benefit in the range of $15 million to $25 million.
EPS Growth: Year-over-year EPS growth is expected to be in the teens, supported by EBITDA growth, lower interest expense, and share repurchases.
Free Cash Flow: The company expects to convert roughly half of its EBITDA into free cash flow in 2026.
Vacation Ownership Business: The company anticipates continued strength in tour flow, pricing, and close rates. Volume per guest is expected to be in the range of $3,175 to $3,275, reflecting a deliberate mix shift towards new owners over the course of the year.
Resort Optimization Initiative: The initiative will result in a $20 million net EBITDA benefit by reducing lower-performing resorts and replacing them with higher-demand, less seasonal, and newer resorts. This includes a $120 million revenue headwind offset by $70 million in expense savings.
Capital Allocation: The company plans to continue investing in the core business, returning capital to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases, and pursuing opportunistic M&A. A new $750 million share repurchase authorization has been approved, and a first-quarter 2026 dividend of $0.60 per share is intended.
Travel and Membership Segment: The company is taking targeted cost actions to align the expense base with the current revenue profile and maximize profitability, despite ongoing exchange headwinds.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Dividend Growth: Since the 2018 spin, the company has grown the dividend by more than 35%.
2025 Dividends: The company paid $149 million in dividends in 2025.
2026 Dividend Plan: The company intends to recommend a first quarter 2026 dividend of $0.60 per share.
Share Repurchase History: Since the 2018 spin, the company has reduced its share count by roughly 1/3.
2025 Share Repurchases: The company repurchased $300 million of stock in 2025, reducing its share count by approximately 6%.
2026 Share Repurchase Authorization: The Board approved a new $750 million share repurchase authorization for 2026.
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Key Q&A
Q:What are the long-term expectations for EBITDA or free cash flow contribution from the club management business?
A:2025 is considered a catch-up year for resort optimization. The strategy post-COVID focused on creating efficiency in marketing and resort portfolio systems. Going forward, normal cadence of VOI growth and resort management growth is expected, with 1-2 resorts added annually for maintenance.
Q:Will net owner growth flatline or grow by 2026 or 2027?
A:The intention is to achieve a northern trajectory in owner count in the midterm. Initiatives in core brands and new brands like Sports Illustrated Resorts are expected to drive new owner growth.
Q:How is the consumer performing given the bifurcated financial demographics?
A:There is strong demand for vacations and purchases. Household income has risen above $100,000, and average FICO scores have increased to over 740. 80% of owners made purchases at pre-inflationary prices, reinforcing value and quality.
Q:What is the expected loan loss provision for 2026?
A:The loan loss provision is expected to decrease to around 20% in 2026, down from 20.7% in 2025. Larger down payments in Q4 2025 contributed to a more favorable provision.
Q:What are the details of the strategic review of 17 assets?
A:The 17 assets in 12 locations have significant unsold inventory and occupancies below 50%. These older resorts, averaging 40 years, are being replaced with newer builds in higher-demand destinations. The EBITDA contribution is estimated at $15-$25 million, with $20 million as a midpoint.
Q:What is the progress on Sports Illustrated Resorts and Eddie Bauer Collection?
A:Sales for Sports Illustrated Resorts began in December with positive early reception. Eddie Bauer Collection transitioned to physical sales centers in Q1 2026, receiving strong reception from the WorldMark owner base.
Q:What is the marketing approach for 2026?
A:The focus is on owner arrivals, partnerships with Live Nation and Authentic Brands, and leveraging data through AI and apps. No specific changes were made for tax refund timing.
Q:How does the company view the cruise industry?
A:The company sees growth opportunities in partnerships with cruise lines, including Margaritaville cruises. They aim to expand cross-marketing and potentially invest more heavily in successful partnerships.
Q:What are the sales expectations for new brands like SI, Eddie Bauer, and Accor?
A:The goal is for these brands to represent a growing percentage of total sales, reaching high single digits in 2026 and moving into double digits and teens in subsequent years.
Q:What is the vision for the Blue Thread partnership with Wyndham Hotels?
A:The partnership remains critical, contributing about 3% of total sales. The focus is on leveraging affinities and exploring connectivity between apps.
Q:What is the guidance for VPG in 2026?
A:VPG is expected to be flat to slightly down (1-2%) due to a deliberate mix shift to increase new owner transactions from low 30% to mid-30%.
Q:What are the expectations for the Travel and Membership business?
A:The business is modeled consistent with 2025 trends, with disciplined cost management and leveraging partnerships. Exchange revenue headwinds are expected to continue.
Q:Was there any Q4 2025 benefit from the sales optimization announcement?
A:No, there was no Q4 benefit. Benefits are expected to start in Q1 2026.
Q:What happens to older resorts when the company moves on?
A:Owners are given two options: receive proceeds from the sale or move their ownership to another product. The company is conducting outreach to ensure owners understand their options.
Q:What is the long-term outlook for loan loss provisions?
A:The provision is expected to settle into the high teens over time, with 2026 being a step in that direction.
Q:What is the profitability outlook for the Travel and Membership segment?
A:Margins may erode over time due to structural differences between exchange and Travel Clubs businesses. The segment remains a significant contributor to EBITDA and cash flow.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided providing specific numerical details for the swing factor between $15 million and $25 million EBITDA contribution from the strategic review. Additionally, no specific sales numbers were provided for new brands like SI, Eddie Bauer, and Accor, as management preferred to discuss overall growth percentages.
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The earnings call presents a mixed sentiment. There is strong transaction growth and positive developments in the VOI business, but revenue per transaction decreased, and the Travel and Membership segment remains challenged. The company's financials benefit from improved cost of funds and potential tailwinds, but management's cautious guidance and lack of specific long-term strategies for new brands temper overall optimism. Given the company's market cap, the stock price is likely to remain stable, with a neutral sentiment prevailing over the next two weeks.
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