MKS Instruments, Inc. (MKSI) Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Overview

The earnings call summary indicates stable but not outstanding performance. While revenue and gross margins were at the high end of guidance, the guidance for Q2 is slightly lower. The Q&A section highlighted stable but muted growth in several segments and management's cautious stance on tariffs and inventory. The lack of updated growth expectations despite AI demand and stable but unremarkable financial health suggest a neutral market reaction. However, the share repurchase program and healthy growth in certain areas provide a slight positive offset, maintaining an overall neutral sentiment.

Key Financial Performance

Revenue Second quarter revenue was $973 million, up 4% sequentially and up 10% year-over-year. The increase was driven by demand growth in Semiconductor and Electronics & Packaging end markets.

Semiconductor Revenue Second quarter semiconductor revenue was $432 million, up 5% sequentially and 17% year-over-year. Growth was driven by healthier demand in Vacuum Solutions business, normalization of customer inventories, and FX tailwinds.

Electronics & Packaging Revenue Second quarter Electronics & Packaging revenue was $266 million, up 5% sequentially and 16% year-over-year. Growth was driven by chemistry and chemistry equipment business, partially offset by lower demand for flexible PCB drilling equipment.

Specialty Industrial Revenue Second quarter revenue was $275 million, an increase of 2% sequentially but down 5% year-over-year. The decline was due to softness in the industrial market, partially offset by modest improvement in research and defense.

Gross Margin Second quarter gross margin was 46.6%, slightly above the midpoint of guidance. The sequential decline was largely driven by incremental costs related to tariffs, which negatively impacted gross margin by 115 basis points.

Operating Income Second quarter operating income was $202 million with an operating margin of 20.8%. This reflects strong revenue performance and disciplined OpEx management.

Adjusted EBITDA Second quarter adjusted EBITDA was $240 million, with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 24.7%. This was above the high end of expectations.

Net Earnings Second quarter net earnings were $119 million or $1.77 per diluted share, at the high end of guidance, reflecting strong financial performance.

Free Cash Flow Free cash flow was $136 million, up sequentially and year-over-year, representing over 100% of net earnings and 14% of revenue.

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Operating Highlights

Remote plasma and gas delivery solutions: Gaining traction for advanced logic applications.

Chemistry and chemistry equipment solutions: Strong orders for advanced multilayer boards and high-density interconnect boards related to AI applications.

Dissolved gas delivery systems: Used in flat panel display manufacturing, leveraging R&D for Semiconductor and Electronics & Packaging end markets.

Semiconductor market: Revenue of $432 million, up 5% sequentially and 17% year-over-year, driven by NAND upgrade activity and RF power solutions.

Electronics & Packaging market: Revenue of $266 million, up 5% sequentially and 16% year-over-year, driven by chemistry and chemistry equipment growth.

Specialty Industrial market: Revenue of $275 million, up 2% sequentially, with modest improvement in life and health sciences and research and defense.

Cost management: Implemented mitigation strategies to limit tariff impacts, reducing gross margin impact to below 100 basis points in Q3.

Debt reduction: Made $200 million in prepayments on term loans, reducing net leverage ratio to 4x.

Free cash flow: Generated $136 million in free cash flow, representing over 100% of net earnings.

AI-related applications: Focused on advanced packaging and AI-related chemistry design wins, validating position in complex electronics applications.

Service business expansion: Expanded value-added services capabilities, resulting in higher growth and stable annuity-like revenue streams.

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Risk or Challenges

Tariff-related costs: Incremental tariffs negatively impacted gross margin by 115 basis points in Q2, with the situation remaining dynamic. Although mitigation strategies have been implemented, the tariff landscape continues to pose challenges.

Semiconductor revenue fluctuations: Anticipated lumpiness in NAND upgrade activity is expected to moderate semiconductor revenue sequentially in Q3, creating uncertainty in revenue projections.

Specialty Industrial market softness: Revenue in the Specialty Industrial market was down 5% year-over-year in Q2, primarily due to continued softness in the industrial market.

Debt and leverage: The company has a gross debt of $4.5 billion and a net leverage ratio of 4x, which, while improving, still represents a significant financial burden.

Tariff-related pull-in demand: A small portion of sequential improvement in Electronics & Packaging revenue reflects tariff-related pull-in demand, which may not be sustainable in the long term.

Volatility in flexible PCB drilling equipment demand: Lower demand for flexible PCB drilling equipment in Q2, following strong growth in Q1, highlights the volatility in this segment.

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Guidance & Outlook

Semiconductor Revenue Outlook: Revenue expected to moderate sequentially in Q3 due to anticipated lumpiness in NAND upgrade activity. However, the company anticipates mid- to high single digits year-over-year growth for the quarter, positioning it to outperform WFE for the year.

Electronics & Packaging Revenue Outlook: Revenue expected to increase sequentially and grow double digits year-over-year in Q3, driven by strong demand in chemistry and chemistry equipment, particularly for advanced multilayer boards and AI-related applications.

Specialty Industrial Market Revenue Outlook: Revenue expected to remain flat in Q3, with modest sequential improvement in life and health sciences and research and defense end markets.

Gross Margin Guidance: Guiding gross margin of 46.5%, plus or minus 100 basis points, with tariff impact expected to be below 100 basis points, marking an improvement from Q2.

Operating Expenses Guidance: Expected to be $252 million, plus or minus $5 million in Q3.

Adjusted EBITDA Guidance: Expected to be $232 million, plus or minus $24 million in Q3.

Tax Rate Guidance: Expected tax rate of approximately 18% in Q3, with full-year tax rate at the lower end of the 18% to 20% range.

Net Earnings Per Share Guidance: Expected to be $1.80, plus or minus $0.29 in Q3.

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Shareholder Return Plan

Dividend Payment: During the second quarter, the company paid a dividend of $0.22 per share, amounting to $15 million.

Share Repurchase: No share repurchase program was mentioned or discussed in the transcript.

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Key Q&A

Q:How should we think about semi revenue trends beyond September, considering potential Q-over-Q volatility with NAND?

A:The basic WFE portfolio is growing year-over-year and faster than the market. NAND upgrades overlay this growth but can be lumpy. Customers dictate the timing of these upgrades, and while the NAND upgrade cycle is beneficial for MKS, it can result in variability in quarterly performance.

Q:What is driving the strength in the PCB business, and how should we think about its future?

A:Q2 strength in the PCB business was driven by AI, both in equipment and chemistry. While there may have been minimal pull-ins, the guidance for Q3 is higher, driven by the consumer product cycle and strong demand for chemistry and equipment for chemistry.

Q:Does the momentum in chemistry equipment orders indicate a sustainable trend, and what are substrate manufacturers saying about capacity utilization?

A:Substrate manufacturers are experiencing high utilization rates, driven by AI. Chemistry equipment orders have shown sustained high bookings for four consecutive quarters, primarily due to AI-related demand. The broad portfolio of chemistry and equipment positions MKS well to meet customer needs.

Q:What are the operational priorities for the company in the coming year?

A:The company remains focused on outgrowing in semi with world-class optics power for high aspect ratio etch and providing complete solutions in Electronics & Packaging, including chemistry, chemistry equipment, and laser equipment. These long-term priorities remain unchanged.

Q:Could we see inventory replenishment in the NAND business, or will it move closely in line with demand?

A:Inventory replenishment is unlikely as lead times have normalized, and customers are pulling what they need rather than building up inventory. Shipping is expected to align closely with demand.

Q:Why wouldn't there be more of an uplift in gross margins from the higher chemistries mix in Q3?

A:While the chemistries mix carries higher gross margins, higher equipment sales, which have lower margins, offset this advantage. Equipment sales are beneficial as they lead to future high-margin chemistry orders. Tariffs are slightly better in Q3, but overall volume is slightly lower than Q2, keeping margins relatively stable.

Q:Have growth expectations for the Electronics & Packaging (E&P) business changed due to AI strength?

A:Growth expectations have not been updated, but the company is benefiting from AI-driven demand. MKS provides a complete solution, including chemistry and equipment, which is crucial for customers in AI-related processes. This positions the company well for long-term growth.

Q:How would the potential shift from CoWoS to CoPoS impact the E&P business?

A:A shift from CoWoS to CoPoS, skipping substrates and going directly to PCBs, would be a tailwind for MKS. The company has a strong position in HDI, and its tools are uniquely enabling for the more sophisticated HDI layers required in such a shift.

Q:How are the lithography and inspection applications performing within the semiconductor business?

A:The lithography and inspection applications are experiencing muted cycles, but the $300 million revenue run rate remains intact. Growth may be slightly delayed, but the company is well-positioned with design wins in advanced equipment.

Q:What is driving the year-over-year growth in the Electronics & Packaging business, and is it all due to AI?

A:Year-over-year growth of $40 million to $50 million is primarily driven by AI applications. While PCs and smartphones remain muted, the company is outgrowing due to its focus on AI and its ability to provide both chemistry and equipment for AI-related processes.

Q:Is the growth in chemistry in Q3 better than normal seasonality due to AI applications?

A:Yes, the base growth is higher due to AI applications, which add to the seasonal growth driven by consumer products like PCs and smartphones.

Q:Are customers in the semi business focusing on inventory optimization due to tariff dynamics?

A:No, customers are buying to need rather than optimizing inventory, as lead times are low and there is no significant impact from tariff dynamics.

Q:What is the current state of the laser segment, and are there any improvements?

A:The laser segment remains relatively muted, with no significant changes from previous quarters. Industrial lasers are still cautious, reflecting global PMI trends. However, there are some design wins in key markets like HBM dicing.

Q:Are there any price increases from key component suppliers due to tariffs?

A:No, the company has a collaborative relationship with suppliers to mitigate the impact of tariffs, and there have been no price increases due to tariffs.

Q:Has the company baked any conservatism into the September quarter guidance due to pull-ins or tariff announcements?

A:The guidance is based on the best available information at the time and does not include conservatism. The impact of recent tariff announcements is still unclear, and mitigation actions are ongoing.

Q:What is the visibility on HDI and MLB for AI applications, and where are they being used?

A:It is difficult to determine the specific end-use of HDI and MLB for AI applications, but many customers are building capacity to target the AI market. HDI and MLB are crucial for AI-related chips requiring more layers and sophistication.

Q:What is the outlook for OpEx in fiscal '25 and '26?

A:OpEx is expected to remain in the $250 million to $260 million range for Q4. The company balances profitability with long-term investments and closely monitors OpEx.

Q:Are there any positive lead indicators in the Specialty Industrial business?

A:Defense is a bright spot, showing significant growth, while life and health sciences remain stable. However, industrials remain muted, reflecting global economic conditions.

Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses

A:Management avoided giving a direct answer regarding the potential competitive advantage or disadvantage from recent semiconductor tariff announcements, citing the complexity and dynamic nature of the situation. Additionally, they did not provide specific updates to the 5-year growth model for the E&P business despite AI-driven growth.

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