BlackRock TCP Capital Corp (TCPC) Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call presents a mixed picture with concerns outweighing positives. Key negatives include tightened access to capital, higher financing costs, and a lack of expected M&A activity. Although the company has reduced nonaccrual investments, the presence of 8 such companies still poses risks. Dividend cuts and net realized losses also weigh negatively. Despite some positive aspects like liquidity and share repurchases, the overall sentiment remains negative due to financial challenges and market uncertainties.
Key Financial Performance
Adjusted Net Investment Income $0.36 per share, flat year-over-year. No significant changes mentioned.
Annualized Net Investment Income ROE 15.4%, no year-over-year change mentioned.
Net Asset Value per Share $9.18, down from $9.23 in the previous quarter.
Nonaccrual Portfolio Companies 8 companies, down from 12 in the prior quarter, representing 4.4% of the portfolio at fair value, down from 5.6%.
Gross Investment Income $0.66 per share, includes recurring cash interest of $0.47, non-recurring income of $0.03, recurring discount and fee amortization of $0.05, PIK income of $0.08, and dividend income of $0.04.
Operating Expenses $0.28 per share, including $0.20 per share of interest and other debt expenses.
Net Realized Losses Approximately $41 million or $0.48 per share, driven by the disposition of investments in Securus, McAfee, CIBT, and Avanti.
Net Unrealized Gains $30 million or $0.35 per share, primarily reflecting the reversal of previous unrealized losses on investments.
Net Increase in Net Assets $21 million or $0.25 per share.
Total Liquidity $629 million at quarter end, with $530 million of available leverage and $99 million of cash.
Unfunded Loan Commitments $135 million, representing 8% of the $1.8 billion investment portfolio.
Net Leverage 1.13 times, within the target range of 0.9 to 1.2 times.
Weighted Average Interest Rate on Debt 5.2% at quarter end.
Dividend Declared $0.25 per share for the second quarter and a special dividend of $0.04 per share.
Share Repurchases 3,150 shares repurchased during the quarter and an additional 39,500 shares after quarter end.
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Operating Highlights
New Investment in Apparis: A $6.7 million first lien term loan and revolver in Apparis retail, a market leader in software that helps retailers combat returns fraud and employee theft.
Growth Capital to Job and Talent: Provided growth capital to Job and Talent to accelerate execution of their long-term strategic plan.
Portfolio Fair Market Value: Portfolio had a fair market value of approximately $1.8 billion at the end of the quarter.
Market Positioning in Middle Market: Middle market is the fastest growing sector of the economy, with strong interest from borrowers for direct loans.
Nonaccrual Status Improvement: Number of portfolio companies on nonaccrual status declined to eight from twelve, representing 4.4% of the portfolio at fair value.
Dividend Declaration: Declared a second quarter dividend of $0.25 and a special dividend of $0.04 per share.
Focus on First Lien Loans: 100% of new investments were in first lien loans, which comprised 82.5% of the total portfolio.
Waiving Management Fee: Advisor agreed to waive one third of the base management fee for three quarters beginning January 1, 2025.
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Risk or Challenges
Global Macroeconomic Factors: The impact of global macroeconomic factors, including tariffs, remains uncertain, which could affect the company's portfolio performance.
Supply Chain Disruptions: Global trade disruptions are impacting supply chains, although the company believes its focus on US-based operators provides some insulation from these issues.
Access to Capital: Access to capital has tightened, and financing costs are higher, which may affect the company's ability to invest and grow.
Market Volatility: The current volatile market environment presents challenges, as many companies are operating under different conditions compared to a year ago.
Nonaccrual Investments: The company has eight portfolio companies on non-accrual status, representing 4.4% of the portfolio at fair value, indicating potential risks in investment performance.
Tariff Impact: Only a mid single digit percentage of the portfolio at fair market value is estimated to be directly impacted by tariffs, but the full downstream effects are yet to be quantified.
M&A Activity: The expected lift in M&A activity has not materialized, which could limit growth opportunities for the company.
Economic Downturn: The company is preparing for a potential economic downturn, focusing on maintaining a disciplined approach to originating and underwriting loans.
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Guidance & Outlook
Portfolio Strengthening: During Q1 2025, TCPC made meaningful progress in strengthening its portfolio, with a decline in nonaccrual positions from 12 to 8 companies.
Investment Focus: The company is primarily focused on investing in first lien loans, with 100% of new investments in this category, which comprised 82.5% of the total portfolio.
Dividend Declaration: The Board declared a second quarter dividend of $0.25 and a special dividend of $0.04 per share, payable on June 30, 2025.
Share Repurchase: TCPC repurchased 3,150 shares of stock during the quarter and an additional 39,500 shares after quarter end.
Strategic Partnerships: The company is actively engaged with management teams of portfolio companies to improve performance and resolve issues.
Adjusted Net Investment Income: For Q1 2025, adjusted net investment income was reported at $0.36 per share.
Net Asset Value: The net asset value per share was $9.18, a slight decrease from $9.23 in the previous quarter.
Liquidity Position: Total liquidity increased to $629 million, with $530 million of available leverage and $99 million in cash.
Debt Refinancing Plans: TCPC is focused on plans to refinance its next major debt maturity in 2026, aiming for the best options to do so.
Market Outlook: The company anticipates strong interest from borrowers in the core middle market, despite a slowdown in M&A activity.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Second Quarter Dividend: $0.25 per share, payable on June 30, 2025 to shareholders of record on June 16, 2025.
Special Dividend: $0.04 per share, payable on June 30, 2025 to shareholders of record on June 16, 2025.
Share Repurchase Program: 3,150 shares of TCP stock repurchased during the quarter and an additional 39,500 shares repurchased after quarter end.
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Key Q&A
Q:What's the thoughts in terms of the trajectory of repurchases going forward?
A:We will continue to monitor the trading price but really to continue to do them as they are accretive.
Q:Do most of your portfolio companies have sponsors or do they not have sponsors?
A:The vast majority of our companies do have sponsors or institutional ownership.
Q:What is the appetite of those sponsors for kicking in more equity when you do a financing?
A:Sponsors have had several years of looking to support their companies, but many may be less supportive if they don't see sustainable equity value.
Q:Can you give us any thoughts on the timeline for completing restructuring or repositioning those businesses?
A:We expect to be through the restructurings probably in the next few quarters, could be sooner.
Q:Is there likely to be any change in the types of deals you're going to do on a go forward basis?
A:We are definitely taking that approach going forward to exercise more influence in our deals.
Q:Can you explain what happened with the Job and Talent markup?
A:The markup came from improved performance and the economics from incremental growth capital.
Q:Are you able to share any of the economics regarding your investment in Job and Talent?
A:We're not able to share the details for confidentiality reasons.
Q:Are you pursuing any new SBIC licenses or plans to do so this year?
A:We do have plans to obtain a second license.
Q:Has the ongoing administration changes disrupted the expected timeline for getting a license approved?
A:So far, it has not impacted either the availability or the timing.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided providing specific details on the economics of the Job and Talent investment, citing confidentiality reasons.
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The earnings call presents a mixed picture with concerns outweighing positives. Key negatives include tightened access to capital, higher financing costs, and a lack of expected M&A activity. Although the company has reduced nonaccrual investments, the presence of 8 such companies still poses risks. Dividend cuts and net realized losses also weigh negatively. Despite some positive aspects like liquidity and share repurchases, the overall sentiment remains negative due to financial challenges and market uncertainties.
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