Ocean Power Technologies, Inc. (OPTT) Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

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Overview

The earnings call presents a mixed picture with strong revenue growth but significant risks in cash flow, operational efficiency, and market expansion. The Q&A reveals management's ambiguity on recurring revenue and breakeven timelines, adding uncertainty. The absence of a share repurchase program and cash flow challenges further dampen sentiment. Overall, despite some positive financial metrics, the uncertainties and risks outweigh them, leading to a negative outlook.

Key Financial Performance

Revenue $2.4 million, a 170% increase year-over-year, driven by effective strategy and growing demand for solutions.

Operating Expenses $4.7 million, a 41% reduction year-over-year from $8 million, due to headcount optimization and reduced third-party spending.

Net Loss $3.9 million, a 46% decrease from $7.2 million in Q2 of last year, reflecting improved financial discipline.

Cash Position $2.3 million as of October 31, 2024, down from $3.3 million at the close of the prior quarter.

Net Cash Used in Operating Activities $10.9 million year-to-date, a 30% improvement compared to $15.5 million in the prior year.

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Operating Highlights

Quarterly Revenue: Achieved record quarterly revenue of $2.4 million, a 170% increase compared to the same period last year.

Service Offering: Launched a formal service offering for maintenance services on sold or leased vehicles and buoys.

Latin America Expansion: Announced a partnership in Latin America with $3 million in purchase order commitments over 36 months.

Middle East Partnerships: Partnered with Unique Group for ADIPEC exhibition and signed distributor agreement with Remah International Group in the UAE.

Defense Sector Engagement: Completed exercises under a follow-on contract with EpiSci as part of Project Overmatch, showcasing WAM-V technology.

Operating Expenses Reduction: Reduced operating expenses by 41% year-over-year, totaling $4.7 million.

Cash Burn Reduction: Reduced operating cash burn by 39% year-over-year.

Path to Profitability: On track to achieve profitability by the fourth quarter of calendar 2025.

Market Positioning: Focused on national security, critical infrastructure, and international market expansion.

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Risk or Challenges

Revenue Growth Risks: The company faces risks in maintaining its current revenue growth trajectory, particularly in converting its pipeline into backlog and then into revenue. There is a concern about pushing the team to their limits while ensuring cost-effectiveness.

Operational Efficiency Risks: The need to scale operations to meet increased demand poses a risk. The company must balance growth with maintaining operational efficiency to avoid unnecessary costs.

Market Penetration Risks: While the company is expanding in Latin America and the Middle East, there are risks associated with the regional specificity of projects and the potential for delays in scaling operations globally.

Regulatory and Competitive Pressures: The company operates in a rapidly evolving maritime and renewable energy sector, which may expose it to regulatory changes and competitive pressures that could impact its strategic partnerships and market position.

Cash Flow Management Risks: Despite improvements in cash flow, the company must manage its operating expenses effectively to achieve profitability by the end of calendar 2025, with risks associated with unexpected expenses or lower-than-expected revenue.

Backlog and Pipeline Conversion Risks: The company reported a decrease in backlog, which raises concerns about its ability to convert its pipeline into recognized revenue in a timely manner.

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Guidance & Outlook

Record Quarterly Revenue: Achieved record quarterly revenue of $2.4 million, a 170% increase compared to the same period last year.

Cost Reduction: Reduced operating expenses by 41% year-over-year, totaling $4.7 million.

Strategic Partnerships: Announced a partnership in Latin America with $3 million in purchase order commitments over 36 months.

Defense Sector Engagement: Completed exercises under a follow-on contract with EpiSci as part of Project Overmatch, showcasing WAM-V technology.

Market Expansion: Entered partnerships in the Middle East and Latin America to explore offshore energy and maritime projects.

Path to Profitability: On track to achieve positive cash flow by the end of calendar year 2025.

Operating Expenses: Expect to maintain operating expenses at cost-effective levels without material expansions.

Backlog and Pipeline: Current backlog is approximately $3.6 million, with a pipeline of over $90 million.

Revenue Growth: Confident in converting pipeline into revenue, particularly through larger project-based sales.

Recurring Revenue Model: Increasing leases and as-a-service models contributing to recurring revenue.

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Shareholder Return Plan

Shareholder Return Plan: The company is focused on achieving profitability by the end of calendar year 2025, which is a key aspect of its shareholder return strategy. They have reduced operating expenses by 41% year-over-year and are managing resources effectively to support long-term growth.

Share Buyback Program: None

Dividend Program: None

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Key Q&A

Q:Can you talk a little bit about how the recurring revenue side and the as-a-service strategy is going?

A:We are definitely seeing an increase in leases as-a-service type models, exercises, various deployments that we're doing and that certainly helps in terms of the recurring revenues that we're seeing and our ability to project forward.

Q:Are you going to start guiding towards some type of a recurring revenue pattern that we should think of?

A:I think we're definitely going to start seeing more of that. We just recently launched that service offering. So I think as the next series of quarters develop, we’ll be able to provide more of a kind of trend on how that is developing.

Q:Are these projects that you're working on or getting deployments in, are these -- these have the potential to go global?

A:I think it is a mix of both, Shawn. I think there is -- especially in the offshore energy space, some of the work is very region-specific.

Q:What do you really think is kind of the path forward there in terms of kind of getting more orders and scaling that from a revenue standpoint?

A:I think we feel confident that we will see a lot more activity certainly in terms of bookings and also, to some extent, revenues over calendar 2025 in that region.

Q:What's the biggest risk or hurdle to maintaining the trajectory that you guys are building on there?

A:The ability to continue scaling and maintaining the growth pattern that we've set out, converting what we have in the pipeline to backlog, to revenues is obviously always something that we take a very close look at.

Q:How should we think about how those two revenue streams get converted into actual recognized revenue?

A:We're maintaining traction. We're seeing leases converting into backlog, but they will convert, similar to Shawn's question earlier, they'll convert into revenue at a lower pace.

Q:Have you announced though, like what the actual backlog is given that the pipeline is roughly at that kind of $90 million plus number?

A:For the quarter end, we're at about $3.6 million. So that's down a little bit sequentially from where we were.

Q:Have you talked about what that OpEx number will be that you guys will reach that breakeven on?

A:I think we've mentioned it's breakeven in the calendar year, not the fiscal year.

Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses

A:Management's response to the question about the actual backlog was vague, as they only provided a figure without context on how it compares to previous quarters or future expectations.

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