Altisource Portfolio Solutions SA (ASPS) Q3 2024 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call highlights strong service revenue growth and improved adjusted EBITDA, with a significant margin increase. Despite some challenges in the renovation business and higher SG&A costs, the company is optimistic about future growth and has added new clients. The lack of a share repurchase program is a negative, but the overall financial health and market expansion efforts paint a positive picture. The Q&A section reveals a cautious yet optimistic outlook, particularly in the renovation business, suggesting a positive stock price movement in the short term.
Key Financial Performance
Service Revenue $38.2 million, a $4 million or 11.8% increase year-over-year, driven by sales wins and representing the strongest quarterly service revenue performance in 12 quarters.
Adjusted EBITDA $3.6 million, a $2.8 million improvement year-over-year, benefiting from higher service revenue, lower corporate costs, and margin expansion in the origination segment, partially offset by $1.2 million of higher SG&A costs.
Adjusted EBITDA Margin 11.3%, improved from negative 1.1% year-over-year, driven by higher service revenue, business segment margin expansion, and lower corporate costs.
Cash and Cash Equivalents $28.3 million, no year-over-year change mentioned.
Corporate Adjusted EBITDA Loss $7.2 million, $1.5 million or 17% better than the third quarter of 2023, reflecting cost savings and efficiency initiatives.
Service Revenue Year-to-Date $7.5 million higher than last year, a 7% increase, driven by sales wins and price increases for certain services.
Adjusted EBITDA Year-to-Date $13.8 million higher than last year, reflecting higher service revenue, business segment margin expansion, and lower corporate costs.
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Operating Highlights
Renovation Business Launch: Since the late April launch of the renovation business, we received over 70 referrals at an average renovation cost of close to $100,000 per property. This business is now one of our larger business lines just six months after product launch.
Sales Wins: For the quarter we won new business that we estimate will generate $1.7 million in annual revenue once fully ramped. We also generated $5.2 million of service revenue in the quarter from 2023 and 2024 sales wins.
Sales Pipeline: We ended the quarter with the service earned real estate segment weighted average sales pipeline of $23.2 million of annual revenue on a stabilized basis.
Adjusted EBITDA Improvement: Adjusted EBITDA improved by $1.4 million on $500,000 of service revenue growth, primarily from cost savings and efficiency initiatives.
Cost Discipline: Third quarter corporate adjusted EBITDA loss of $7.2 million was $1.5 million or 17% better than the third quarter of 2023.
Diversification of Revenue Streams: With the recent launch and ongoing ramp of our Renovation business and sales wins, we are diversifying our revenue streams and customer base.
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Risk or Challenges
Economic Uncertainty: The ongoing impacts of government and servicer responses to the COVID-19 pandemic, governmental fiscal policies, and current economic conditions create significant uncertainty in predicting future economic states and their effects on Altisource.
Decline in Foreclosure Metrics: There has been a 15% decline in average serious delinquency rates, a 7% decline in foreclosure initiations, and a 14% decline in foreclosure sales compared to the same period last year, which negatively impacts higher-margin businesses.
Legacy Indemnity Claims and Bad Debt Expense: Higher than anticipated legacy indemnity claims and bad debt expenses have negatively impacted adjusted EBITDA results, with an increase of approximately $1.2 million in the Service and Real Estate segment.
Renovation Business Ramp-up: The renovation business is growing rapidly, but its performance is below initial expectations due to a slower-than-anticipated launch and ramp-up, affecting overall guidance.
Market Normalization Risks: The company anticipates strong growth in default-related solutions if the market normalizes or delinquency rates rise, indicating a reliance on market conditions for future performance.
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Guidance & Outlook
Service Revenue Growth: Generated $38.2 million in service revenue, an 11.8% increase year-over-year, reflecting strong sales wins.
Renovation Business: Launched in late April, received over 70 referrals with an average cost of $100,000 per property, expected to significantly contribute to service revenue and EBITDA.
Sales Wins: Estimated to generate $1.7 million in annual revenue once fully ramped, with a weighted average sales pipeline of $23.2 million.
Cost Discipline: Maintaining strong cost discipline with a corporate adjusted EBITDA loss of $7.2 million, reflecting cost savings and efficiency initiatives.
Fourth Quarter Guidance: Anticipate strong service revenue and adjusted EBITDA growth over 2023, but forecast close to the low end of guidance due to lower foreclosure starts and sales.
Future Revenue Expectations: Expect service revenue and earnings from the renovation business to ramp as the year progresses.
Adjusted EBITDA Margin: Adjusted EBITDA margins improved to 11.3% compared to negative 1.1% for the same period in 2023.
Market Normalization Impact: If delinquency rates rise, anticipate strong growth in default-related solutions.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Share Repurchase Program: None
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Key Q&A
Q:Is the renovations business included in the pre-foreclosure work and what percentage of total revenues is that now as opposed to last year?
A:The market is not performing as expected, with foreclosure starts and sales significantly lower year-to-date. Our Ocwen REO inventory is down compared to last year, impacting the number of units sold. However, we are adding new clients in earlier-stage processes.
Q:Could you talk a little bit about this renovations business?
A:We signed an agreement to provide renovation services for a large REO asset owner, receiving about 75-80 referrals so far, generating approximately $1.5 million in revenue in Q3, up from a couple of hundred thousand in Q2. We expect this to ramp up further.
Q:Can you talk about the $1.8 million higher SG&A and the legacy indemnity claim and bad debt expense?
A:The higher SG&A is due to market impacts costing about $2 million in EBITDA, slower ramp of renovation costing $0.5 million, and higher SG&A costs of about $350,000. The bad debt is expected to be collectible.
Q:Do you see a continued pickup in the originations business?
A:There was a brief pickup in origination volumes, but it halted as mortgage rates rose again. Our revenue was flat from Q2 to Q3, but we are adding more clients to the credit business.
Q:Any rough base case what revenues could look like in '25 for the renovation business?
A:It's tough to model, but if we get 15 referrals a month at $100,000 each, that could mean $1.5 million a month. We are optimistic but can't estimate exactly.
Q:Do you have the capacity for 15-30 referrals a month?
A:We feel good about our capacity and have regional managers overseeing programs in six states.
Q:Are you seeing any change in the foreclosure market and delinquencies?
A:Foreclosure initiations and sales are lower than expected. There are signs of potential increases in delinquency rates due to high interest rates and declining home prices.
Q:Are you doing more pre-foreclosure work now and has your share gone up versus last year?
A:Yes, we've won new customers and increased market share in pre-foreclosure work, helping offset market declines.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided giving a direct answer regarding the exact percentage of total revenues from the renovations business compared to last year, and the future revenue estimates for 2025 were vague, lacking specific figures.
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